2019 Chevrolet Blazer; Cars That Broke Our Hearts | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #190


This week, we talk about
the Chevrolet Blazer that we just added to our test
fleet, the 2020 Subaru Legacy sedan, and the cars
that broke our hearts. Next on Talking Cars. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hi, everyone. Welcome to another
episode of Talking Cars. I’m Jon Linkov. I’m Keith Barry. I’m Mike Quincy. And this week, we’ve got
some pretty interesting news from the most
recent Chicago Auto Show, which was
a couple of weeks ago in the whole polar vortex. Keith, one of the cards
that they showed, getting near and dear, Subaru Legacy. Yeah. Can you tell us a
little about that? Now, we love the legacy. It’s on our recommended list. And there have been a couple
of changes to it this year. It gets some new engine choices. It gets a new turbo. And it gets a new
giant touchscreen. So the turbo, for
the new XT version, that’s kind of a cool idea. The giant touchscreen, I’m
not entirely sure about. What do you folks think? Have you seen it? One of the things that’s
interesting with some of the Subaru’s, Mike, is
that they dropped the turbo from the Forester. And everyone complained,
oh, my, gosh, there’s no more turbo in the Forester. So now, in addition to the
four cylinder, I believe, is the base engine. You get this new
turbo charged engine. Yeah, they dropped the six. They dropped the six. Right. Which did really well in
Consumer Reports’ test. I mean it was quiet,
and smooth, and– Strong. Kind of an under-appreciated
trim line of the Legacy. I mean, I was
thinking about this. And I was thinking how– Subaru’s kind of edgy. Because they have
a car like the WRX, a hyper turbo
charged sports sedan. Right. And when it comes to maybe more
mainstream mature sedans, what other brand is putting out
something that might be as edgy as a turbocharged Legacy? Yeah, Ford Fusion, as you move
up, the Titanium is sporty. But that car is going away. It is. Right. And there isn’t, like
you said, a huge number of these performance affordable
sedans that are out there. And with all-wheel
drive, there’s– Right. I mean, the ultimate just
added all-wheel drive. But aside from that,
something that’s affordable– I mean, this Legacy is
going to be pretty much it. But you bring up a good point
about when Subaru dropped the turbo engine
on the Forester, are people going
to get– are people going to get excited about
this and then not buy it, like they did with
the turbo Forester? Well, I’ll say one thing
that may be interesting, is that replacement
for the turbo Forester will be a turbo Outback. Because the Outback is
based on the Legacy. Yeah, and we already
get a sense that– I mean, a couple of dealers
are even saying, like, hey, you’re wondering what new
Outback’s going to look like, and it’s probably going
to debut later this year, just take a look
at the new Legacy and imagine just a little
wagon shape on the back. You know, one
thing you mentioned is the big touchscreen. Is it like the Dodge
Ram, upscale touchscreen? Or is it like a
Tesla touchscreen? Or is it just like
this iPad mini? Honestly, it reminds me
of– and don’t kill me here, because this is going to be a– but it reminds me a
little of the big census screen in the Volvo’s, because
it does control climate control. But will it work better– There aren’t those hard– –than the Volvo screen? Yeah, but still,
with climate control, I need my hard buttons,
so I can just reach and just touch something. I don’t want to take
my eyes off the road in order to turn on a defrost
or something like that. Or it blanks, if it
resets, if it goes out– I’ve been in them, I’ve been
in some of our test cars where the screen is blank. And then all of a sudden,
you’re driving with someone, and the windows
fogged up, and you’re lowering the windows in
the winter because you so much body heat, and outside,
the condensation that forms, and the fog, you
run into trouble. So I do agree, hard buttons. And Subaru is that sort
of no-nonsense brand, where people who want something,
people who would about a Volvo 20 years ago, they want– it seems to be, from what
we hear from Subaru buyers, that they like
the fact that it’s a no-nonsense car,
it’s all-wheel drive, it’s practical. Is this going to
turn people off? Are people going to walk
in and say, no thanks. And they didn’t do
that with the Ascent. Yeah. We’re going to– the Ascent
SUV, their big three row SUV. Yeah. We’re going to
keep our eye on it. But it kind of led us
to talking a little bit with the Valentine’s Day
week, about cars that we loved, but missed out on. You know, people love
the Subaru Legacy. But is there something
that we each loved, that we weren’t, either
we didn’t buy it, or we owned it, and wish we did. I think, Mike, you
came up with the idea. Well, yeah, the idea was
cars that broke your heart. Right. And the first thing
that I thought of was all the Volkswagen turbo
diesels broke my heart. So being a road trip guy,
the Volkswagen turbo diesels were always my go-to car. So when it had the
emissions scandal and they dropped them
off from the lineup– because I recommended
turbo diesel Volkswagens to dozens of people. Sure. And then all of a sudden,
they come back to me, like now what do I do? And I’m like, oh, god. So I loved these cars. But they totally– They lied to you. They totally– The relationship
was built on a lie. Yep. Yeah, terrible. I mean, there have been fixes,
but we haven’t tested them. And we’re not endorsing
any of the old cars either. They broke some trust. Yeah. And it was a car that I loved. And now I’m just– Spurned. I just kind of drop
my head, and go, oh, man, it just killed
diesels in the United States. Yeah, it really did. Keith– So mine’s a little
more personal. Mine is a little
more personal story. When I was 18 years
old, I had about $4,000 I’d saved up to buy on a car. And because like all
18-year-olds I was a genius, and I thought I realized
something that nobody else in the world had ever realized– And that was like
four years ago. Yeah, yeah. It was that you could go out
there and buy a really, really expensive car as long as you got
one that had depreciated a ton. Sure. So I bought an X300-XJ6. A Jaguar, OK. Little did I realize
at the time– Wow. –that one of the VINs on
it had a salvage title, but the other one didn’t. So that was fine. I got it registered. And I drove it. I felt like a million bucks. I was going to the
kind of college where it wasn’t uncommon
to see Porsche Cayenne’s in the student parking lot. How was the country club? Seriously? But here was I,
definitely not that. And I felt like I
kind of– you know, people were looking at me. And I thought I was
really, really cool. And I was learning
a bit about the car. And I was getting under the hood
a little and doing a little. And then the exhaust system– You had Triple A on speed dial. No, actually, it
was remarkably– I mean, it had
142,000 miles on it. And this car, it was no problem
for road trips, everything. But the thing that
killed me was, it needed a new exhaust
system from the cat back. And the parts alone
on that at the time were almost as much
as I paid for the car. Wow. So I sold it to someone. He fixed it up. And in relationships,
that happens with them. But the thing that
really killed me– The friend or the car? To the car. The thing that really,
really killed me with this, though, is that,
and it really broke my heart, is that I googled
the VIN one day. Don’t ever do that. If you have a car
that you like really love, don’t ever look up
to see what happened to it. Because it was on the list
from cash for clunkers. And it had been crushed
like a mile from my house. And it was just one of
those things I could just like hear what the
sound of that wood splintering and the hydraulic
press would sound like. Even worse, what you would
have gotten for that, maybe. I know, I know. Actually, I sold it for
less than what the– you know, but still. You know, pay some respect. John, I’m sorry. It killed me. I’m at the edge of my
seat, waiting to hear. What’s yours? What’s your story? Well, the one thing I’ll
say is there’s a reason why they depreciate like so. I found that out now, which is
why I’m a consumer journalist. Mine’s the opposite. So it’s probably 15 years ago,
talking to a friend of mine. When you were 18. When I was 12. This is new math. And saying, when you
get your license, and you make your first million
dollars at your first job, you gotta buy a
Porsche RS America. And then at that
point, they I want to say in the 30’s
maybe, $30,000 range. And this is a car that a lot of
people kind of looked and said, oh, you know, they de-contented
it when it came out. It was a 911, that
they had pull door– pull latches. All to save weight
for track days. They didn’t give it any
performance enhancements. And people kind of looked
at it like, well, America’s not getting the real one
that they had in Germany. And it’s just, lack of love. Well now, they’re
$90,000, they’re $100,000. They’re a $100,000-plus. And people love
those, de-contented. They’re authentic. Yep. Now they’re authentic. That’s a farm to table Porsche. It is. Yeah, there you go. It’s sustainable and all. So it’s just one
of those things, like if you scrape up money,
take out a stupid loan or something, here’s a car that
it could have been really fun and then it has a lot of value. It wasn’t like it got away. It wasn’t like I had– I was going to say,
it broke your heart because you didn’t buy one? Yeah, it broke my heart, because
it would have been a smart buy. I didn’t have that lapis
blue one waiting for me around the corner. It just was one of those things,
like it was an opportunity. It was a smart buy. It would have been fun. I was single. I had some cash from
living at home a long time. That would have worked out. So, we each have our own story. I’m sure everyone’s got a story. You can let us know. Send us some stories
about one that got away, [email protected] That’s going to give
us some movement to a car that we just got in,
kind of a historical name. By name, yeah. The Chevrolet Blazer,
we just got this SUV in. It’s a two-row model. Takes on a couple
of big competitors. And it fills a
niche for Chevrolet. Mike– Well, it goes along the theme
that we always talk about at “Talking Cars,”
is SUV saturation. Every manufacturer wants to have
an SUV of every shape, size, price range, or whatnot. The Blazer certainly
comes in with– you know, it’s not
really negative baggage. It’s probably positive baggage. Most people think
back to the Blazer, they think about big SUV from
the 1970s, not the trailblazer, which was absolutely
abysmal [INAUDIBLE] Or the S10 based Blazer,
is what I think of. And that’s that kind
of cool, you know– I owned one. It wasn’t [INAUDIBLE]. And for some people,
like in my household, my teenagers are too big
for a third row seat. Even when they were younger, we
rarely used a third row seat. So I could see the
appeal of this. And as we talked about in a
previous episode, the Honda Passport. Again, I kind of like that
idea of just really a utility vehicle, because I’m not going
to be using the third row. Right. But when you mentioned
before about climate buttons and being able to be
able to see things– Oh, my god. That’s one of the things going
against the Blazer, right? Look, Keith, you’ve spent some
time, and I think all of us have driven it a bit. Yeah. What about the buttons? Because I have my
own opinion them too. So it took me a
while to find them, because there is
this sort of ridge that sort of protrudes from the
inside of the center console, and it seems to have no
other purpose other than to obscure every physical hard
button control in the car. And I tried a ton of
different seating positions. I asked you to make
sure that it wasn’t just the car was designed as an
anathema to my ergonomics. Because we all have
different sized bodies. Yeah. But it seems like walking
around the offices at Consumer Reports’
test track, everyone’s saying the same thing. Yeah. It’s almost like a design
element that GM is moving to, because we found a similar
thing in the Cadillac XT4, their subcompact,
their compact SUV. Also, oddly enough,
it’s as if they haven’t sold enough Camaros. Right. Because they had the giant
Camaro vents down low. And they’re cool in some ways. Look, turning them on
and off is pretty easy. They have the
temperature controls. It’s like a rotary knob. It’s a rotary know. But it just– I don’t get this
whole, like, wow, it’s got Camaro elements
in this two row SUV. It feels like an XT4 that
someone looked at and said, you know what, let’s make
this look more like a Camaro. And it’s not like the– Decontented. Yeah. –camaro sells in great numbers. GM is basically saying,
yeah, we know that Ford sells more Mustangs than we do. I have another climate
related, but it’s more of a sort of global
climate change related concern about these SUVs. And the more these
come out, you know, we see gas mileage in
high teens as, I guess, as we’re driving it around. Not this one–
formally, but yeah. Overall, and we test
these, obviously. But on average, these don’t
get the best fuel economy out there. And we got the V6 model. And I feel like we’re
living on an island, and we’ve got like
three trees left. And we need shelter,
and we need heat, but we’re going to
cut down those trees and lift up our
houses a few feet. It just feels like
it’s just not the best use of where this great
technology can go in design. That’s me, that’s me, but– So Ford Edge is a competitor,
the new Honda Passport. Murano. The Nissan Murano and
the Hyundai Santa Fe. Is this class needed? I mean, is it– It’s wanted. There’s a niche and we have to
put a car in there to compete. But a lot people
by three rows SUVs. We, my wife and I, had, in 2010,
had our baby, our daughter. And we had a Volvo XC70
previous generation wagon. And it fit pretty well. Hard to put the car seat in,
the infant seat in facing, rear facing. But at some point, my wife’s
like, oh, we need an SUV. And we need a three row SUV. Need three row. We’re going to be
carrying people around. I just don’t find it. It could be where
I live, everyone is just so active with all
their kids’ different activities that you never carpool. Because they’re all going
different directions. But is a two-row world needed? Or is it, just look, we’re a
three-row world of vehicles. Should an SUV just be a large– I mean, obviously, if you’re
going to make choices, people are going to buy them. And I’m not against
making choices out there for a key for every lock. But at the same time,
it does feel like– Did you say a Keith
for every lock? A key for every lock. They’re very different. No, none of these are for Keith. But there’s, it’s a slightly,
it feels like a bit of overkill. I don’t know what the
solution to that is. And obviously, it’s not having
everyone driving a Nissan Leaf. But at the same time– It’s what the market
is sort of demanding. Yeah. But as we started
this whole segment– Chicken and the egg, though? But Subaru is sticking
with the Legacy. Yeah. So they’re saying, you know, we
know that everyone wants SUVs and we’re going to offer one
from every shape and size practically. Well, they have [INAUDIBLE]. Which is basically what they do. But they’re saying, you know,
we’re also committed to sedans. And I think that’s cool. I love driving sedans. As I’ve said many times, I get
just a little bit saturated with SUVs all the time. Sure. So speaking of driving,
speaking of driving the Legacy, what is the experience
with the Blazer so far? What have you guys felt? I’ll go with Keith
first, that way we don’t all just go like this. There’s nothing, it’s
certainly not a Camaro. There’s nothing special
about it in either direction. There’s nothing about
it that grabs me. It’s pleasant. There’s nothing that upsets me. John, what do you think. I used to work with an editor
that hated that word, pleasant. Yeah, pleasant. Right, but it’s almost damning
with faint praise in a sense. Exactly, exactly. What do you– I mean, what do you think? I think, to me,
it comes down to, driving the Blazer is like
driving in a shoe box. I mean, the visibility to
me kills the experience. Because the rear
visibility is really compromised by the styling. The dashboard seems high. The glass area seems low. It feels very closed in. The model that we got
does not have a sunroof, so the interior is not
brightened up very much. And it’s a black
interior, black leather. Yeah, so to me, it’s
just kind of dower. I like the way it looks. But I think GM is
really banking on people kind of in love with the name
that they’re going to flock– Nostalgia. –and buy that. I was surprised that for a
$40,000 plus SUV, no sun roof. Right, it’s also– That was just baffling. –kind of a lousy value, also. But I agree with Keith. It is very unremarkable
the way it drives. Like, it’s OK. That’s a better
word than pleasant. Yeah. It’s OK, but I don’t– I don’t find myself
running to the keyboard and getting my name on it before
other people so I can have it. The previous Ford
Edge was, was, is, we haven’t finished testing
of the redesign of it, but it was a little sporty. I’d say it’s a sporty vehicle. It may be compromised other
ways, but it was sporty. Ostensibly– [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, ostensibly, the Passport
is a little bit sportier. True, the Hyundai Santa Fe
was an enjoyable car and SUV. And I had this over the
weekend with the kids. And it was easy to get in and
out the doors open pretty wide. And the dash is high. But again, yeah, unremarkable. And I think my kids actually
walked to a different red SUV. Now they’re little,
but I’m beeping it, and they’re like is the one? I got to say, the
first time we had it, I had trouble finding
it in the parking lot, the first time I took it. Because I didn’t know
what color it was. And the whole reason this
exists is to be distinctive. Right. But in a market crowded with
SUVs, it’s good for consumers because they have
a lot of choices, unremarkable isn’t good enough. It’s not Murano. I mean, the Murano
is– it’s polarizing. Well, the looks of it. But the Santa Fe is
a car you can get in, and they didn’t
make it expensive, but the interior at least, it
gives you something different. Yeah. It’s a cool look. It’s more than pleasant. We’re putting our miles on it. We’re going to have
some information on ConsumerReports.org,
our first drive of it. We already have that
up, actually up, and the video’s up too. Yeah, so check that out. We’re going to move now
to a really good segment. We’ve got a couple of good
questions that people sent in. Once again, send your questions
and your video questions in, [email protected] The first one is from Henry S.
And he says, in a recent show, you endorsed undercarriage
washes during the winter. Can this force salt into the
wheel wells between the sheet metal and the wheel
well liner, into an area where it will never leave? I have done undercarriage
washes on my car for a few years and recently had rust start
under the paint in the wheel well area. Keith, you actually
have a story about that, again on ConsumerReports.org. Yeah. What do you think? What advice do you
have for Henry? Yeah, so we do still endorse
undercarriage washes. Or suggest. Suggests them, yeah. And for the same reason that
you’re having a rust issue, is that stuff tends to
get caught in places that don’t otherwise get washed. The issue is that an
undercarriage washed, no matter how many times you
do it, it’s not going to clean absolutely
everything out of there. I’ve seen this happen on cars. And that’s one of
the hardest places to get that sort of salty– when salt kind of turns into
like a paste with road grime, and it sits there, it’s going
to get wet no matter what. And rust never sleeps, so, yeah. Yeah, very true. Exactly. So I hesitate to create
a counter-factual here. But I imagine that
this might have, your car might have
rusted even a little more if you hadn’t done those
undercarriage washes. So no, it’s not like
it’s pushing it up there. But, the other thing, especially
this time of year, that it does this, if you
live in a place where they salt the roads,
and you really get stuff that’s caked on under there,
an undercarriage washes is just going to blast it off. And sometimes, it is an option
when you go to an automated car wash. They often will charge
you extra or they’ll ask. It’s usually $2
or $3 extra, yeah. I would say, in the wintertime,
it’s not a bad idea. Because there are all
these nooks and crannies. And there’s sound deadening. And there are these panels. And most of the time,
rust proofing these days is very good. But 10, 15 years ago, I don’t
know how old your car is– Well, that’s one question. That’s another question too. We don’t know the age of it. We don’t know maintenance. Not saying Henry’s
not taking care of it, obviously he’s washing
it, but you never know. Information online about
that, because there’s a whole host of car wash advice,
from coatings and washes, waxes, et cetera. We’re going to move to Paul. Paul says, longtime
fan, love the show. Thanks, Paul. Thanks Paul. I was recently told
by a Honda dealer that automatic
emergency braking only works during cruise control,
regardless of the manufacturer. Is this really true? Mike. Another one of those times
when a car salesperson maybe doesn’t quite have
their facts straight. No, this is not true. I spoke with our safety
experts here at the track, and they definitely confirmed
that with automatic emergency braking, cruise control does
not have to be activated. I certainly found
this out for myself. We were– I was driving
our Lexus ES test car the other day. Pulling into my son’s school,
and I found a parking spot. And there was a lamp post in
the front the parking spot. And I got to within a few inches
of it, and all of a sudden, the brakes jammed up. Yeah. And I didn’t think– I thought it was a
little bit premature. But obviously, it did the job. And I, obviously, was not
also using cruise control to pull into the parking space. I’ve had that with
pulling into my garage in different vehicles. And it just depends, maybe
your feathering the brake, you’re going in
a little quickly, and it just doesn’t know. But certainly– Every manufacturer is
different in the way they program their sensitivities. Right. But no, definitely– It’s independent of
automatic cruise control. But one thing I got to
say on this, though, is that it highlights the
fact that, first of all, a lot of buyers don’t understand
how these systems work. And also, that a lot of
dealers don’t understand. And they might just
tell you something just to make sure that you,
just to move you along. But the thing is
that I really want to make sure is that automatic
emergency braking is not the thing that will slow
the car if there’s traffic. Automatic emergency braking
is sort of that last resort. And it might not even be
enough to actually stop the car and avoid a crash. So it doesn’t– It’ll limit the impact and
limit the severity of it. Yes, so it doesn’t mean
automatic emergency braking isn’t the thing
that where you can take your foot off
the brake in the car will just slow itself down. Right. But that, with the
automatic cruise control. Distance sensing
cruise control– Distance sensing
cruise control, that’s going to be the thing that’s
going to slow you down when you have traffic coming up ahead. Automatic emergency braking,
those are two totally different things. One thing you both touched
on, the dealers, and this isn’t to knock the
dealers, because there’s a lot of technology coming out– Oh, yeah. –that’s kind of
coming, like this. I picked up the I-PACE. We are testing
the Jaguar I-PACE. And the salesman, and he’s
was the sales manager, and he was really great. He was great through
the whole thing. But he said to me,
there’s just so much new technology on this
car, it’s hard to just get a grasp of everything with it. There’s so many settings now. There’s so many menus. There’s so many ways to get the
car personalized, so to speak. Let alone just the technology
of what type of charger works on an electric car, et cetera. And in reading this question,
it reminded me of the days when anti-lock brakes were new. Stability control was new. It wasn’t standard on every car. Sure. And I think the salespeople
either didn’t know much about it, or they weren’t
stocking the cars with this– Exactly. –equipment. And so they would
often say, ah, you don’t need that,
you don’t need that. As it proliferates throughout
the market, expect to have it. But it’s also a key thing
for people to think about. Don’t just get in the dealer,
go to the finance and insurance guy, sign the
papers, and get out. Now with cars,
you really do have to book a bunch, book some
time to make sure you go over. And even on the test drive– Do your research. Yeah, do your research. You got to know what packages– Know what the cars can do even
before you get to the dealer. So you can be in the opportunity
to know more about the car. You know a great place
to do that research? ConsumerReports.org? Yeah. I was going to say, check it
out at ConsumerReports.org, because we have a whole list
of all the current 2019s, and even some of
the 2018s, the cars with advanced safety systems,
and which are standard and which are optional. And that’s a big thing to know. Because it’s hard
sometimes to figure it out. Our final question, questions,
kind of merge together. The first one is from Nathaniel
S. Dear “Talking Cars,” in a recent episode,
when you were discussing cargo room in a new
Lexus, Jennifer mentioned, Jennifer Stockburger,
mentioned some ways that you guys
measure cargo room. How do you measure cargo space? And how does that factor
into your overall ratings? So I’ll jump on this. The way we do test it,
is that we use something, we use a big pipe frame box. And basically, it’s adjustable
for height, and for width, and for depth. And we fit it into vehicles
that are hatchbacks or SUVs. And minivans. And minivans, exactly. Because you’ll see these
ratings of the XYZ, the 2019, brand new has 48 cubic
feet of storage space. And that’s maybe if
you’re filling it with ping pong balls. And if you’re filling
it with ping pong balls, that’s a fantastic
part of your clown job. I don’t know what you
do on the weekends. You steal from the ping
pong factory you work at. You steel from the ping pong
factory and have your own. But basically, that’s
not always usable. If the opening is this big, and
the cargo space is this big, you’re only getting a
small long object in there. So what we do is we
measure the usable space of the base with a frame, where
the hatch and the cargo door open, and then what you
could fit it in there. So it’ll be great
to know you can fit a refrigerator in there. You may not have 38.5
cubic feet of overall– you may have that space, but you
can’t refrigerator in the car if it has a tiny opening. Or if it has a sloping rear end. Or sloping rear end. Because we do it with
closing the hatch. So it’s great, you could fit the
four by eight sheet of plywood or something out
the back, but you’re going to have the flag hanging. We test what you could have
in the vehicle with the hatch closed. The other question that’s
kind of associated. Jake says, hi, on top of
recently getting a dog, my wife and I are
hoping to adopt and could need a bigger
vehicle with no notice. I would be replacing
a 2013 Hyundai Elantra and would like to improve on
its fuel economy, mostly highway driving, while adding
around 30 cubic feet of cargo space for the dog. A used Prius V, Toyota
Prius V fits the bill, but we don’t like the
cheap interior materials and lethargic acceleration. Are there any alternatives
with above average reliability ratings that are under $20,000
with less than 75,000 miles? We each came up with our own. I’m going to toss this
one to Keith first. I say– I say treat yourself. You’re starting, you’re
starting a new family. You might have to go for a
car that’s a little bit older. But my recommendation
is the Lexus RX. Stellar, stellar
reliability in our tests. The ’08 to 2010, really
nice interior, really quiet. It’s got a ton of space. And there also is a
hybrid version of it. I mean, it’s not going to
get Prius V fuel economy, but it’s not going to be a
huge dip from the Elantra. And yeah, it’s a
bigger car, but you’re going to be able to have that
reliability and that comfort as well, that
you’re looking for. Mike and I initially kind
of thought of the same one almost, like a mind meld. Mike– It just came out of
mouth at the same time. It was like Mazda 5. Yeah. Mazda 5 is this really kind
of obscure, little cross between a wagon and a minivan. The cool thing
about the Mazda 5, it had dual sliding side doors. It had room for six. It had a decent
cargo room inside. The four cylinder engine
didn’t have a lot of power and the handling was made it
kind of agile, kind of fun to drive. Yeah. The downside of this car, they
didn’t sell a lot of them. So it might be hard to find one. Right. But we’ve known a
few people that we’ve worked with in the
communications office, who bought one for his family,
and really liked it. It’s like a mini mini van. Exactly. We were kind of sad to see that
go out of production, actually. Well, there’s a lot
of cars out there. I would suggest
that, Jake, you go take a look at
ConsumerReports.org and look at our best
used cars under $20,000. There’s also some
list best under 30, if you happen to be able
to bump it up a bit. But a lot of cool information
on there, particularly for CR members. So that’s going to do
it for this episode. As always, check the show
notes for what we talked about. Thanks for watching, and
we’ll see you next time. [MUSIC PLAYING]

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