2019 Toyota RAV4; Standard Safety Terms | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #175

2019 Toyota RAV4; Standard Safety Terms | Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #175

We talk about the all new
2019 Toyota RAV4, some safety news out of CR, and answer your
questions next on Talking Cars. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hey, we’re back. I’m Keith Barry. I’m Gabe Shenhar. And I’m Jake Fisher. And today we’ve got
a lot to get through, new cars, your questions. But first, we’re going
to take a little victory lap around our test track
here at the Auto Test Center. We’re actually going to
make news here today. Jake, do you want
to do the honors? Well, sure, I
guess what I really want to talk about
is the names that we call all these new
advanced safety systems. There’s a lot of these
systems on these cars today, and everyone likes to call them
something different depending on what car you get into. They’re called everything– Pre-safe, and
Post-safe, and Sensing– [LAUGHTER] Right. And we’re doing
something about that. So we’re doing
something about this, because this is something
we’ve talked about it before. If you don’t know
what’s on your car, you don’t know how
to react to it. You don’t know how to
order in the dealership. So this is a big deal. What we have talked
about before is it would be great if
everyone called the thing that stops
your car when it senses another car the same thing. It would really, really
make a lot of sense. And we’ve gotten a lot of
other interested parties to say, hey, we want
to do that, too. Some major, major names
that folks out there might have heard of, right? So we have been talking with a
large group of organizations, I mean, everything
from government, industry, what not
to try to figure out how to go about this. Because it’s not
really that easy. So you may have heard some
of these terms before– automatic emergency braking. I’ve heard of that one. Forward Collision Warning. adaptive cruise control,
Blind-Spot Warning, lane departure warning,
lane keep assist. Depending on what
car you get in, these are called
different things. And actually up until now, a lot
of organizations, even safety organizations, have called
these different things. And this is something
that we did. Right, we organized this. We organized this push. So going forward, AAA,
the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, IHS, JD
Power, mycardoeswhat.org, National Safety Council,
the NTSB, the National Transportation Safety Board. These are just some of the
organizations that will now adopt these same terms. This is just– I don’t want to take
the big victory lap, because this is the beginning. OK. Because what we really
need to do is we need to get a lot of
the automakers starting to use the same terms. I’ve been in talks with
many of the automakers. Some of them are
closer than others. But the point is that
you’re going to see these terms on the internet. You’re going to see them from
all these different areas. It only makes sense because
the people who are buying cars want these systems. So if they don’t know
what package has it, or what Super Safety Sense is– Yeah, we’ve definitely
increased the awareness among the public regarding
these kinds of systems. But it’s very important
to be very precise here. If you call lane keep
assist Lane Change Assist, or something like
that, that’s very confusing, if you mean that’s actually
a Blind-spot Warning System, like one manufacturer,
at least, calls it. So it creates a lot of confusion
not only among customers, but also dealerships themselves. Dealers don’t know
the difference. Well, Toyota, for instance. It’s all one clump of terms
that nobody can decipher. Toyota has that, what is
it, their Safety Sense Plus? Yes. And when you go to
buy a car, it sounds like oh, I’m getting all
of the safety features. Exactly, and that point
was driven home to me when I rented a Toyota
Corolla in Austin, Texas a few months ago. I was happy. Oh, it’s got all
the safety things. But when I had to
switch three lanes over, and I thought I had Blind-Spot
Warning, and lo and behold, there was a Ford F-250 next
to me that I hadn’t realized. You need the F-250
assist is what you need. But just to be clear about
what we’re talking about is. We’re talking about kind of
generic names, the ingredients what goes into Safety Sense
Plus or whatever it is. We’re not saying, you
can’t call it Safety Sense. We’re just saying when you go
and you order Safety Sense, It’ll be clear. OK, it comes with lane
departure warning, whatever it is, if we have to
have those consistent names. So people actually know
what they’re getting into. Now on sort of a related
note, one of these systems is Blind-spot Warning. We also made a
change to our ratings this week about how we’re
going to look at Blind-Spot Warning going forward. And that’s the
right name, right? Blind-spot Warning? Well done. Well done, my friend. I’m not calling it
Lane Master Flash. [LAUGHTER] No. OK. When we look at the overall
score of each vehicle, we do take into account
standard safety features, such as Forward Collision
Warning and Automatic Emergency Braking. Nailed it, got those. [LAUGHTER] But no, up until
basically last week, we haven’t taken into
account Blind-Spot Warning. The reason we’ve made that
change was a couple of reasons. First of all, we do
nationwide surveys, and we ask people their
experiences with these systems. Absolutely, Blind-Spot
Warning, people love it. But also when we ask what
systems helped you avoid a crash, this is what they say. They say this system really
helps them avoid crashes. And that’s backed up
with IHS data, right? I have some data here that
shows that having a Blind-Spot Detection System– See, there’s a name there. It’s not that bad. We’ve got to fix that. But it cuts the likelihood
of lane change crashes, like into F-250s by 14%. And it cuts the likelihood of
injuries related to lane change crashes by 23%. In a lot of cars, visibility
is really getting much worse. Yeah. You get those thick pillars. Yeah, it definitely is helpful. So for going forward,
standard equipment. And the other we
looked at is that it seems that Blind-Spot Warning,
specifically, most vehicles have this available. I think it was about 85% when I
looked at the make and models. But only about 15% of them are
making it standard equipment. We’re going to spare reading
you the entire list, but– I’m not reading any list. It’s mostly brand new ones. Fortunately, we have a
website, consumereports.org. We have the whole list there. That’s available free. But to that point, you’re
talking about in terms of Safety Sense, because
Blind-Spot Warning is a different system than
most of the other stuff– Most of the stuff requires this
camera looking forward, right. That deals with Forward
Collision Warning, Automatic Emergency Braking,
even lane departure warning. That’s a camera looking forward. These are sensors
looking backwards. And what that means is very
often when you go and equip your vehicle with
the safety package, the high-tech safety
assist package, it doesn’t include this. So it’s very confusing. A lot of people are
winding up checking what they think is all the
boxes for the safety systems and not getting blind-spot. So you’re going to
be able to find out by looking at our
scores, basically, whether that car has that. Yeah, certainly on
the model pages, but also free for anyone, we
talk about Blind-spot Warning. We talk about which
vehicles have it standard. It’s right on our site. Well, speaking of new cars
and also speaking of Toyotas– wow, these segments are really
flowing into each other today. Everything just meshes. Yeah. Coincidence is lovely. A real popular car we’re
going to talk about is the Toyota RAV4 I can say
it’s much better than the RAV3 But I can’t wait for
the RAV5 Gabe, RAV4. If there’s anyone
who’s listening who’s never heard
of the RAV4, where does it stand in the market? What’s so important
about this car? OK, the RAV4 is really
a significant car. It started the whole car-based
SUV craze about 25 years ago. I’ll spare you and the
listeners the whole history of the Ottoman
Empire here, but– Whoa, CR-VS was right
around there, too. Yeah, a few years later. What about AMC? Can we go back to AMC? No. [LAUGHTER] No AMC and no Outback,
because those are wagons. Anyway, the RAV4 is
very significant. First of all, it’s a very
popular car among our members. But it’s also one of the highest
selling cars in the country. It beat the Toyota Camry for
best selling passenger car, right after all three
classic pickup trucks that are perennial bestsellers. It sold over 400,000
units in 2017, beating the Camry, which
held the record before that. There are some car makers,
some entire brands, that don’t sell that
many cars in the US. Lots of them. Yeah, it’s very popular. And now with this
generation, Toyota is really trying to imbue the
RAV4 with more adventurism, with more outdoorsy
kind of feeling. They’re literally calling
one of the trims Adventure. Exactly. I mean, you look at the
thing, and it kind of reminds you, the whole
silhouette, and some of the styling details,
such as the wheel arcs, it looks like a Jeep Cherokee. Add the grille from
the Toyota Tacoma, and it looks really muscular. Yeah, it’s rugged. Yeah. One thing I noticed though,
is that there are lots of different flavors of RAV4. When we were at the New York
Auto Show when it debuted, they had like four
of them there. They looked like different cars. We’re organizing a photo shoot
for the ones that we have and that we’re driving. We’re not going to do
just a shoot of just one. We’re going to do
a shoot of two, because they look so different. And that’s kind of
on purpose, right? Yeah, just to clarify. We have two that we rented from
Toyota, which are early cars. The car doesn’t go on
sale until December. And in due course,
we’ll buy our own RAV4. It’s going to be hybrid
and probably an Adventure? No. It’ll be XLE. The Adventure will account for
maybe 5% or 10% of the mix. But it looks so cool. [LAUGHS] That’s part of the
point, though, right? So you can have a car
that’s the same as everyone else’s, but different. Well, it’s one thing
about the RAV4. When they sell so many of those,
one of the draws against it– the draw against it, does
that even make sense? But one of the
problems with it is that not everybody
wants to have such a car that everyone else has. It’s so crowded nobody
goes there anymore. Right, exactly. So I think that’s why. There is some breathing room for
some of these other vehicles, like the Mazda CX-5. OK, I want a RAV4,
but I want something that stands out a little bit. What they’re trying to do
here is like, OK, fine. You’ve got a RAV4, but
we’ve got the truck-y one, or we got the hybrid one. We got different kind
of flavors of it. It’s a kind of a smart strategy. We’ve seen this
before from Toyota. They’ve done this with
Camry with the Camry Sport. There’s like two flavors of the
Avalon with different grills. Try to differentiate it and give
a little bit uniqueness to it, even though you’re having
such a commodity vehicle. Yes, Toyota is trying to
satisfy their current owners and being very careful
not to alienate them. But at the same time,
they want to expand the appeal of the car. We see it, like Jake
said, in other lines. And also it’s a
more crowded field than when it first came
out, when it was RAV4 versus CR-V. Now it’s everyone. Absolutely. Now it’s the category. Yeah. So what are some of the changes
that have come for 2019? Because it’s a totally
different totally different car. It is. It’s based on what Toyota calls
this general architecture that underpins pretty much every
one of their new models. It has a more powerful
engine, 208 horsepower, which is one of the
more powerful engines in this category. And what’s the powertrain? It’s a 2.5 liter mated to
an eight-speed automatic transmission, which is
still rare in this category. It’s not a turbo, right? It’s not a turbo. Eight-speed automatic. I think only the Tiguan, the
Volkswagen Tiguan, gets that. Yeah, a good point
that it’s not a turbo. Typical Toyota. It’s a very
conservative company, so they stay away from turbos. They’re a little slow
to adapt to all kinds of whiz-bang technologies. And that’s part of the reason
why the reliability is so rock solid. Yeah, last week when we
announced the reliability– When you really look at the
reliability going back to 2013, it’s not even– a lot of people are like oh,
Japanese cars are reliable. No, it’s not even that. Toyota is reliable. Toyota stands out. They have had the most
reliable makes since 2013 in our surveys. So obviously, reliability
is utmost important to them. And that’s why they
are so conservative. You look what Toyota’s just now
putting in, CarPlay, finally, when everyone else
seems to have it. No small displacement
turbos in the RAV4. The Camry’s still got a V6,
while everyone else is going with small displacement turbos. So they really are taking
their time with the technology. But they’re getting
more horsepower. They’re refining. Yeah, those numbers
aren’t quite out yet. We’re going to test it ourselves
when we get our own in. And also to mention,
speaking of fuel and fuel economy, the hybrid, too. The hybrid is also updated. We tested the hybrid in
it’s last generation. We got some crazy
good fuel economy. And we’ll see how
the new ones do. Yeah, excellent. All right, I think that’s
enough on the RAV4. It’s time for–
well, let me just say something personal first. I don’t know about you folks,
but I get a lot of questions from my friends, my family. You know, “Hey, can you help me? I’m buying a car.” Or, “Hey, I got a
question about my car.” You know what? We’re done. No more questions to
friends and family. You’re going to
send your questions to [email protected] Friend time, family
time is not work time. So you’re going to
send us your questions. That’s one of the dangers
of this profession. It really is. That way you can
ask us questions, but you don’t have to
invite us to Thanksgiving, or your birthdays, or anything. So [email protected] That’s my ultimatum
for everyone out there. None of these are
friends or family. They could be though. We could meet them. Maybe they’re not friends yet. Not friends yet. Friends we haven’t met yet. So the first one is
Sony in Austin, Texas, has a question about leasing. “Hi, CR,” and a bunch
of compliments to us that we’re going to skip
over in the interest of time. “Even though it’s
not ideal, do you think leasing a vehicle is
a good way of finding out if a vehicle is right
for you in the long term? I’ve always purchased to own. But recently I leased
a 2018 Mazda CX-5. I love the car, but
SUVs are not for me. I’m glad I leased it,
because after the lease ends, I can go back to
what I truly love, which is hatchbacks and sedans.” Can I take this one? Go for it. No. [LAUGHTER] OK, moving on. This is a terrible idea. So a lease– When you buy a
car, it’s your car. It might be the bank’s car. But in the end, as
long as that title, you can do whatever
you want with that car. You can sell that car
if you don’t like it two days after you buy it. Sure, you’re going to take
a hit in the depreciation. When you lease, you
are signing a contract, and you’re basically stuck with
that car for the entire term of the lease. You can swap a lease. You can kind of trade out of it. You can sometimes
negotiate with the dealer. But that is really,
really hard to do. What were you saying? It’s like on your first
date, you have to sign on. Right, you’re not really sure
if you’re interested or not. But you’re like, OK, well, since
I’m not sure, I’m going to go, here, can you sign
this contract? We’re going to live together
for exactly 24 months, and here’s exactly
what we’re going to do. This is the problem. It is a commitment. And if you’re not sure,
signing and getting trapped into a commitment is
probably not your best bet. Yeah, it’s not like renting
an apartment in a neighborhood to see if you want
to buy a house there. A lease is what you do if
you know you want the car. I’m always in favor
of living together before getting married, but
this way, you’re more married than living together. Yeah. So what I would recommend,
sometimes you can rent a car. Some places have extended test
drives, 24-hour test drives. You can really find
out what you like. But don’t lease to find
out if you like it. Any other relationship
advice that we need to give? That comes later. OK. That’s at Thanksgiving. Yeah. That’s episode 176. [LAUGHTER] So we got a question
about the Genesis, which is really relevant
because I think one of the Mikes is out there buying
a Genesis right now. This is someone who’s
trying to buy a Genesis, Chris C. He says
my wife and I are planning on buying a
Genesis G70 as soon as one is available in our area. But we’ve heard that
we won’t be getting any until the end of the year. Genesis advertisements
indicated a summer release, but local dealers won’t even
take our money for an order. What’s driving this
slow rollout of the G70 Should we be worried
about quality issues on delayed first units?” So two questions there. What is driving
the slow rollout? Why don’t we have our G70 yet? So, yeah, it was supposed
to be out in June. Then it got pushed to August. And now we’re at
the end of October, and still no Genesis
in our hands. What’s happening is
that Hyundai keeps changing its mind about
creating a separate Genesis franchise, versus allowing
regular Hyundai dealers to sell Genesis models. So it’s a slow process,
and some dealers are in the midst of applying
for a Genesis franchise. Here in Connecticut, there
are no G70s to be had. So we had to go– Elsewhere. The next-door state
and pick one up there. And that’s where Mike is
right now, picking it up. And as far as
reliability is concerned, it sounds like it’s not
delayed because there’s something wrong with the car. No, it doesn’t seem that way. And actually, what’s
interesting about this vehicle, we’ve seen years
and years of data showing that Kias generally are
more reliable than Hyundais. So Hyundai, Kia, for
those who don’t know, have similar corporate parents. Hyundai-Kia-Genesis now is
the way to think about it. And the reason
we’ve seen that is because generally, first
Hyundai gets the model, and then Kia gets it afterwards. Hyundai gets the newest stuff. And then when they
work out the bugs, now Kia has got a little
bit better reliability. In every car, when
they first come out, they’ve got a certain
amount of bugs. They certainly get
better with age. This vehicle, in particular,
is almost the first time we’ve seen the opposite of this. This platform is actually very
similar to the Kia Stinger, which we’ve already tested. Kia got it first,
and now Genesis will be employing
that same platform. If you look at it
that way, chances are the reliability
will probably be better, because it’s not all branding. So, Chris, basically
keep an eye out. It’s coming soon, and
the delays don’t seem to be related to reliability. And in the meantime,
make sure you check out the first drive on our site. Another reliability question. This is a quick one from Gerry. “My lease is ending on
my 2016 Subaru Outback I’m changing jobs and
will be driving to work. I’m looking at the 2019 Mazda
CX-9, 2019 Kia Sorrento, and 2019 Hyundai Santa Fe. I hear good things
about the CX-9, but the reliability in
CR’s survey isn’t so great. Help? Do you have any
other suggestions?” We’ve got some
good news for you. Reliability, it’s
good now, right? Well, so this is exactly like
we talk about everything. All vehicles, when
they come out, sometimes there’s
bugs to be worked out. The CX-9, on the first
year of this redesign, we saw some problems with it. It appears that they’ve
ironed out those kinks. So right now, we are
recommending the vehicle. The reliability looks good. Go for it. Cool. All right. That was quick. Next question is about plug-ins. And it’s from Dan
M. “I’m looking to buy a Plug-in Hybrid EV. I drive about 20 miles a
day and occasionally take a 150-mile round trip. I’m looking at used cars, like
the 2015 or newer Ford C-MAX Energi, the 2016 or newer Chevy
Volt, Hyundai Ioniq, or the Kia Niro.” And those are newer cars. “My budget is around
$20,000, and I’ll be keeping the car
for five years. Should I open my wallet for
the newer Volt, Ioniq, or Niro, or go with the older C-MAX? What would you recommend? I would go with
the C-MAX actually. Because that car works very
well as a plug-in hybrid. It’ll give you 20 miles
of electric drive, even during hard acceleration,
modestly hard acceleration, during traffic merges,
climbing hills, and whatnot. And the car is a very solid,
substantial, and enjoyable to drive. It’s really versatile, too. The only thing is check
out the reliability because it tends to be spotty. Some years are
better than others. Yeah, what do you think? Agreed. I’ve got the C-MAX, too. it’s a great driving vehicle. I think the only reason
it hasn’t sold more is just kind of the looks of it. But really, when
you come down to it, if you wanted to live with
it, and drive it, it’s roomy. It’s fun to drive. It’s a nice choice. Yeah, it kind of looks like
a European delivery van. I think that’s
really what it is. Yeah, that’s why
it looks like that. I have a totally
different idea for him. I did the math, and I found if
that’s how much you’re driving, you can lease. On plug-in hybrids, lease
deals can be really, really, really good. Sometimes those tax
benefits, if they’re there, they get factored in. So I would look into leasing. You’re not going to
keep it for five years. But you’re going to
keep it for three. You might be able to
get an incredible deal with a low down payment
and low monthly payments on the new Ioniq or the Niro. So check out that as well. Total that out, and see
how much that would cost, and if it fits your budget. And then, it’ll be under
warranty the whole time. Cool. So if you have any questions
about really anything– reliability, new cars, et
cetera, relationships– [email protected] You don’t have to invite
us to Thanksgiving, but we’ll be glad to
answer your questions. Thanks for watching. We’ll see you soon. [MUSIC PLAYING]

About the Author: Michael Flood


  1. It just stands to reason that some of these safety warning and accident avoidance systems should be standard equipment.

  2. I have been a big fan of Consumer Reports for decades and I use to enjoy your videos, no more! Too much babbling, it took over 11 minutes to get to any real information and then you barely gave us anything. People go to Consumer Reports for information not for silly entertainment.

  3. Info re: leasing is not correct. Yes, you agree to the terms, but you can sell a leased vehicle before the end of the contract. As long as the leasing company gets their full amount, they're happy and release you from the term.

  4. Aside from safety system terminology, There is another issue that seems not to be talked about as far as I can tell. At some point the cars on the road need to be able to communicate with each other. And for that matter, the roads and freeways need a means of talking with the cars traveling on those roads. This all requires some sort of standards for this sort of communication. And establishing those standards requires a discussion that brings together a wide range of stakeholders. So far I do not even see anyone beginning to discuss these issues

  5. The old RAV4 is out selling the new Camry by significant numbers. The Highlander and 4Runner will be outselling the Camry in a few years. At the rate things are going the Camry will not see another generation in the US. The Corolla hatchback is more practical. There really is no need for a sedan.

  6. “Blind spot” warning implies that there is a blind spot. If your mirrors are adjusted properly there is Not a blind spot. If you can see the side of your car in your sideview mirrors they are adjusted wrong. You can’t run in to the side of your own car so why are you looking at it in your mirror?!

  7. I think it is absolutely worth it to lease before buying. What if u get into an accident? You can give it back. What if it develops reliability issues, you can give it back. What if it starts rattling, you can give it back. You can always lease to buy. Sure it may cost a bit more to lease to buy, but it will still be less than buying then selling it after a few yrs and you definitely take a blood bath.

  8. Great Job leaking the 2019 Rav4 specs like engine horsepower. Toyota doesn't even allow you to release those figures yet.

  9. Start the show criticizing leaves, end the show recommending one. I know, I would recommend a lease on an event too

  10. The RAV4 and CR-V came out in Japan within 18 months of one another. The CR-V has always been the better of the two IMO, with the exception of the V6 equipped 3rd generation RAV4.

  11. A truly "muscular" RAV4 requires a V6 like the 269 HP third generation. #ButchRAV4 #MyAdventureIncludesTowing #RAV4ForDudes

  12. Blind Spot Warning and Forward Collision Warning with Auto Brake are my 2 favorites. I hate getting into a auto rental with thick pillars so the Blind Sport Warning helps. Forward Collision Warning is a lifesaver when the car in front abruptly slams on their brakes and I have little time to react.

  13. auto sense braking can also be dangerous. imagine false detection & it brakes causing a rear collison with the car behind you?

  14. The 2019 RAV4 we think is a huge improvement on the previous model. However, some really good discussion here fellas. Thanks for sharing!

  15. Why is Jake consistently angry, irritated, and impatient? This dude is to automotive journalists as Chad Meyers is to meteorologists.

  16. @ 20:10 Keith barry is probably thinking… i recommend we take a short break and get this flying monster outta here LoL

  17. Across the board standardization of auto industry tech-terms. That's a great idea. I wonder though if automaker legal departments will insert themselves into the process and thereby slow it down. For example, an automaker may not be comfortable with a posed term that they are not currently using. I suppose that discomfort could be addressed with the disclaimers and footnotes you generally see on the maker's sites and literature.

  18. The previous gen Rav4 was underpowered and harsh ride even on the limited model. Not sure if the Sport package made it even worst as I only test driven the XLE and own the Limited for 2 years now. I hope this is a much better version and I'll replace my 2017 one with probably a Hybrid one if it truely offers more power then the regular gas.

  19. The safety features you're talking about doesn't make the car safer because of some of these things is making cars less save

  20. Who again owns J.D Power???
    Yeah a chinese lawyer corporation. Its basicly worthless.
    Please stop bringing these nonsense up.
    A company that praises chevys everyone knows that it's all crap.

  21. Kudos on your efforts to standardize the naming of the various safety systems. Your recommending the 2019 RAV4 is problematic. The 2018 and earlier RAV4s have a serious problem with the small offset front: passenger-side crash test result which was rated as “POOR”. Unless and until the 2019 RAV4 has been tested and this serious flaw has been shown to have been corrected, I for one will not consider putting my family in a RAV4. This is not just a problem the the RAV4 or Toyota. Many of even the newest vehicles have deficiencies in structure or airbag deployment that could allow a preventable injury to occupants, especially in the front passenger seat. I have been developing a list of new vehicles for my wife. My first priority is a vehicle with good ratings in all aspects of structure and crash protection. I have been using the IIHS in my search and have discovered that the narratives for each vehicle must be read in detail as the IIHS gives some vehicles, with rather significant shortfalls, ratings as “Top Safety Pick”. I strongly recommend you put safety first and not recommend vehicles that don’t protect their occupants, regardless of how many are sold or how good the gas mileage is.

  22. TURBO…REQUIRES MORE OIL CHANGES AND WON'T LAST LONG. TO MUCH STRESS ON THE SMALL ENGINE. TURBOS ARE FADS! reason why Toyota has not put in Apple or Android…they want Toyota owners information. Thank You Toyota for making reliable, dependable, and now exciting vehicles. Slow and steady.

  23. I have a 2016 Sonata. Nice car, but boring to drive, after experiencing the new Accord and Camry. I like the Accords looks better, but afraid of the CVT and turbo 4, compared to the Camrys historically reliable non-turbo engines. My old Camry and Corolla achieved about 300,000 miles. Am I needlessly worrying about the turbo/small engine reliability of the Accord?

  24. The government has to legislate the terms or names of those systems. My present vehicle also has Brake Assist and that's very useful in a panic stop.

  25. LOL it sounded like Gabe wanted to stop Keith who let it slip that tidbit of info about Mike… 🙂 Thought it'd be removed in post processing

  26. Agreed on the C-Max recommendation as an owner. It has been a solid and reliable vehicle for me. MyFordTouch has been greatly improved with the latest software updates compared to earlier years. Usability there has been solid in my experience. The transmission where all the hybrid and plug-in magic happens is very similar in design to Toyota's in the Prius models and is also an improved version of what was in the old 2005-2012 Ford Escape hybrid's which had stellar reliability. It's also a super versatile vehicle for a PHEV where you get great rear leg room and can fit 3 people back there easy. And cargo space isn't terribly hindered and it can haul a decent amount with the rear seats dropped. And overall the interior room is deceptively generous. As a 6ft person I have plenty of headroom in the driver seat but also don't feel like I'm sitting at road level. It's only too bad Ford decided not to continue it. My hope is another manufacturer decides to make a decent hatchback PHEV to take over that mantle.

  27. RAV4 XLE or XSE? Hybrid. Done. Take my money. I mean, take the bank's money and I will pay the bank in bi-weekly payments for 4 years.

  28. Buying a vehicle that everyone has as well is an intelligent decision, specially if it's from a brand known to make reliable cars. Why?
    1. Lower insurance rates!
    2. If you plan to own the vehicle longer for 5+ years, there will be more aftermarket parts for the other parts.
    3. More mechanics will be familiar with your vehicle
    4. You can compare problems that may arise to other people.

  29. I think that they’ve understated Toyota’s reputation for rock solid reliability. In truth I’d say that it was established by 1976.

  30. Hahaha, I love how they accidentally leak the Horsepower but then edit the video. Now it's not there. Pretty impressed with the numbers.

  31. Cheap plastic box, with hard seats, dated tech, poor boring joyless ride? Ah yes, just get a Camry or Rav4…..why you ask? Oh, the reliability is just too good to pass up. Every time I sit in one, I wonder why they sell so good.

  32. I thought the Jeep Cherokee was the first crossover? Is there a difference between crossover and car chassis or am I wrong about the Cherokee and it's actually the RAV4. Sidenote I used to drive a 1995 and 1998 rav4, these new ones look just a bit different 😉

  33. How many people buy a bigger, heavier, thirstier and harder-to-park Highlander just to get the V6? A V6 RAV4 would provide much better day to day mpg while offering the towing capacity of the Highlander when needed. #ButchRAV4 #2RowV6CompactCUV #MyAdventureIncludesTowing

  34. Leasing means getting something earlier you may can't afford now.
    But it's not a perfect world folks.
    If you encounter financial problem or disaster it can be very problematic adds to your existing problems.

  35. Get that guy out of the middle , he likes the lime light to much. The bald guy would be much more appropriate as the lead person.

  36. Subaru just announced a massive recall of 2011-2013 cars effecting over 170,000 cars they sold, and the Toyota/Scion sports car affecting 50,000 of those cars sold. Essentially, an engine valve is fragmented which can cause the engine to self-destruct. They expect this will only happen to 1% of the cars but that is too many. The repair takes 12 hours (they take the engine apart) so this is going to be a very costly recall.

  37. Any word on when Toyota is getting Android Auto? In late Sept there were rumors that a deal was struck but nothing since, I was hoping it would be a surprise on the RAV4 release.And could they offer it as a software update when it is available?

  38. Can't wait for it to hit the dealers, my last 2 new Toyota was 1999 Sienna and 2004 Camry but the styling of the Camry starting 2012 has since discourage my taste, love the Tacoma like front and the rear view camera of the new Rav4, not to mention horse power should be about 200+. I still have the 99 Sienna, besides regular maintenance items over the years, engine related failure for that 3.0 V6 was the upper Oxygen sensor which I replaced myself for $45, my son totaled the 04 Camry 3.3 V6 so I can't tell how long it will lasts but We drove it up to 130K without any mechanical related headache. Unbelievable quality. By the way, I drove the new rental Rogue on hilly Seattle roads and my daughter's Forester on Northern California back roads and the CVT was really annoying on hilly roads as it rev the engine, I don't drive fast but I want the power and a well connected feeling with the gas pedal when We really needed it, 8 speed trans for the Rav4, just can't wait …. 🙂

  39. My 2018 Subaru Legacy is equipped with Blind Spot Warning. I find it nearly useless. When being overtaken at a small speed differential, the warning light does not come on until the approaching vehicle is already visible in my outside mirror. In fact, if the differential is extremely small, it may not activate until I can already see the vehicle in my peripheral vision through the side window. When a vehicle is overtaking at higher speeds it comes on earlier, but not early enough to give me time to react if I am changing lanes. I still rely upon the outside mirrors which are large, and if adjusted properly, give better warning. But, these mirrors are placed unusually far back on the doors (to reduce wind noise, I am told) and are less easy to inspect at a glance than on other vehicles.

    The Automatic Emergency Braking System, on the other hand, works too well. It often brakes hard and continues to do so when a vehicle in front has already completed the turn or moved into another lane.

  40. a small boost to 208 hp with a gain in weight of 250 lbs or so….I am estimating 25 city and 32 hwy which is only a modest gain in fuel economy over this year's model.

  41. Blind spot monitoring didn't kick in when that bug flew in at 20:12 what kinda system are you guys running? Lmao

  42. Some not so good advice on the lease. Do you know how hard it is to get someone out of their 0% 7 year finance when they are 4 years in? If that person had a lease you can get them out up to 6 months prior to the maturity. Absorbing a couple of months payments is easier to work with than massive negative equity. Leasing has more flexibility and in some cases it's cheaper to lease-to-own.

  43. What's going on with the Mazda3 ratings? The 2019 Mazda3 has not been released by the manufacturer, yet you have published detailed test results. And, lo and behold, your data for the 2019 model is identical to the data for the 2018 model.

  44. Watching Talking Cars after a few months. Lots of nice content. Thanks for making the confusing names standard. Blind spot warning is great. I missed it in my Civic with Sensing. Even with LaneWatch. Till I learned how to adjust my side mirrors as per SAE from another youtube video. I find it lot more confident in changing lanes now. I urge CR to make people aware of how to use side mirrors to cover blond spot. Most people are not aware.

  45. I realize this is an Older Video….HOWEVER as to the question about leasing to see if you like a vehicle is a good question.
    We would NEVER lease for that purpose. In fact we just took a week long vacation 'Up-North' (Michigan) and we Rented an Adventure for that week.
    Personally I am more interested in the RAV4 Limited but the Adventure was the only higher trim level available to us. All in all it still had most of what we are looking for that is on the Limited.
    It cost us $381.00 in total for the week (8 days). A very enjoyable trip AND we got over 32 mpg as well. I was NOT easy on the gas pedal either.

    So I suggest to always rent what ever vehicle you are interested in first. Rent from the dealership too and NOT a Car Rental place.
    The dealerships will maintain their vehicles a lot better then a car rental place in my opinion…

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