Ford GT Comparison – We Drive Each Generation

Ford GT Comparison – We Drive Each Generation


When I say resale values your brain
probably screams boring, but what if we’re not talking about a Honda Odyssey?
What if we’re talking about something more interesting,
for example this multi-generational trio of four GTs. Are we going to use a
discussion of Kelley Blue Book’s resale values as justification to drive super
cars? Maybe, but I promise we’ll all learn something along the way. First though,
let’s talk about the cars. We’ve got a 2018 Ford GT, a 2005 GT and a
Superformance GT40 Mark 1 replica, sorry we couldn’t find anyone to hand over the
keys to an original GT40 for some reason. For a speedy rundown of each let’s tap
someone knowledgeable Kelley Blue Book’s executive publisher Karl Brauer actually
owns this car and is on the list to buy one of these, so, yeah, he’ll do just fine.
This is a 2018 Ford GT. This is the third generation GT. There
will only be 1000 of these made over a 4-year period. I think one of the most
distinctive parts of this car is what’s called the flying buttress. It actually
allows for a large amount of air to pass between the passenger cell and the outer
fenders and then directed into the mid-engine twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6 that
sits behind driver and passenger. That engine makes 647 horsepower. It’s capable
of pushing this car up to 216 miles an hour. What looks like integrated rear
spoiler is actually deployable. They’ll do that in track mode instantly or in
sport mode if you go above a certain speed. It will also rotate near vertical to
give you extra braking force when you hit the brakes hard. This car was meant to beat
Ferrari on the racetrack just like the original GT40 of over 50 years ago. The
mid-generation, the ’05/’06 Ford GT, that one was meant to beat Ferrari on the
street. The car was benchmarked after the Ferrari 360. First and foremost, it’s a
true GT Grand Tourer. I have driven one of these from Los Angeles to Denver and
back in one shot without stopping anywhere except for fuel. They’re three
pedal cars that’ve got an actual transmission that you have to shift
yourself, no paddles no hydraulic clutches. It’s all you, and this one is
powered by a 5.4-liter supercharged V8. It makes 550 hp. You see a lot of
similarity with the 60s Ford GT. It did pay great homage. I can’t imagine a
greater beginning for a historic automobile line like the Ford GT than
the original GT40. This particular GT40 is not an original from the 60s. Ut was
actually built recently by a company called Superformance. Ninety plus percent of
this car was mechanically swapped into the old one. In fact, they were even able
to continue the serial numbers from the 60s on these newer ones. So, if the flying
buttress is the craziest part of the new GT what’s the craziest part of the old
GT? It’s got to be the door design. The reason they did this is because they
used to have what they called a LeMans start. You actually started as a standing
driver, and when they dropped the checkered flag, you had to run across the
street, jump up on the seat and then drop down. This is the only car in the history
of LeMans to win the race twice. The same VIN number vehicle won LeMans two years
in a row. No other car company has ever done that. A car that looked just like
this did it twice. Clearly each of these GTs offers a
unique form of badassery, but how does that relate to this video’s resale value
premise? Well, when Karl bought his 2005 GT it cost around $150,000, now it’s worth twice that. If in the 1960s you’d had the
forethought to nab an original Ford GT for about $20,000, your car would now be
worth millions, yes millions. If history is our guide, any guesses on what might
happen to prices for the half-million dollar 2018 Ford GT In one
fun example, celebrity wrestler/actor John Cena allegedly sidesteps
Ford’s two-year resale restriction selling his 2018 GT for a tidy profit. The exact
price hasn’t been revealed, but we’ve heard rumors it’s well north of $1,000,000. The key takeaway is that unlike most
cars, Ford GT resale values increase over time. Even better,
these are appreciating assets you can drive. What’s that like?
Here’s Kelley Blue Book’s executive editor Michael Harley in the 2018 GT. You
know this thing feels fast, but there is a much more visceral punch in the
stomach from the big ‘ole V8. This is the turbocharged V6. It’s a little bit of a
delay, especially if you’re in one of the taller gears. The best way to get this
thing to really punch you in the back is drop it down to second or third, build
up the boost, and then mash the throttle. This is unquestionably faster than the
other two, but initially, right behind the wheel, on the street, it doesn’t feel it.
Let’s try the old paddles. Dual clutch, lightning-fast response, but I’m still
not getting the ear-to-ear grin that I get with a manual gearbox. One thing
I’ve really noticed about the ’18 is the brake technology. The ’18 GT is running
the latest, which is carbon ceramic brakes, which are virtually immune to
heat buildup. If you step on the brakes your instantaneous pedal response goes
directly to those calipers. It stops on a dime adding a ton of confidence. For me
personally I’ll actually give up a couple hundred horsepower if I can get
better brakes. You jump in the GT40, or you jump in
the ’05 GT and there’s a little bit of suspension compliance, even a
little bit of body flex. The ’18 feels like it’s carved out of a block of
carbon fiber that was thrown on a CNC machine and out came a Ford GT. There’s
zero body flex. There’s zero body roll, and I have it on one of the softer
settings right now. I cannot imagine what it would feel like in the track mode
where this thing drops down on its hauches and the fenders are literally
rubbing on the tires themselves. You know, everyone talks about these
generation gaps and everybody initially would think, wow, the technology gap
really has to happen between that 60s car and the ’05 car, but that’s the
misconception. The real technology gap is that 13-year span between the ’05 and
the ’18 because then all of the sudden now we have traction control, stability control
that allow even the most inexperienced driver to become bloody fast with very
little skill. You drive the ’05 you drive the 60s car and it’s a
white-knuckle ride because you start to get that car sideways and your brain is
the only computer working to straighten it out. It’s a thrill it’s an adrenaline
rush, and it what’s makes those cars more excited to drive. If I was going to drive
New York to LA and back I’d take the ’05. It might lack the sophistication of the
2018 but Karl’s 2005 GT remains a world-class supercar. This car weighs
about 3,500 pounds. This particular one’s been modified. It makes 680 hp at
the rear wheels, probably about 700 at the crank. The hydraulic steering in this
car is more intuitive than modern electric assisted steering, and it
absolutely adds to the experience. You’ve got heel and toe capability with the
three pedals. You’ve got the great shifter here from the Ricardo transmission. Like
most modern supercars, this one also has four-wheel disc brakes. They will hold
the car down with full confidence from 100-plus miles an hour. You put it
together and you end up with this great man machine interface. This car is still
pretty old-school compared to some modern supercars right? It doesn’t have
an active suspension. You get one setting and one setting only. It doesn’t have
stability or traction control, in fact the only thing that separates this car
from a 1960s racer is ABS. It does have anti-lock brakes, otherwise if you don’t
know how to drive the car there’s no electronic nanny to save you from crashing.
I’ve got a lot of experience with this car because I’ve had it for 13 years, and
I’ve put 31,000 miles on it, and because it was designed more as a road car more
than a race car you end up with a vehicle that’s much and easier to drive
in real conditions without feeling compromised. For those purposes when you
decide you want to go you go the kind of noise that engine makes
behind you it’s raw by 2018 standards, and just enough raw for someone like me.
I love it. The 2005 GT is unsullied by modern
electronics, but the Superformance GT40 takes unvarnished high-performance
driving to another level. First impression is that the car smells like
gasoline thanks to the carburetors, and the straight pipe exhaust is loud
especially when you press the throttle. Lots of noise, lots of speed, 560 horsepower
and a 2300 pound curb weight will do that for you. The transmission is a five-speed dogleg
gearbox that means first gear is down and to the left. The clutch is super heavy and
finding third gear when you’re in fourth is a bit tricky, but for driver
involvement, this little lever is very involved. The technology in the
Superformance GT40 Mark I is pretty basic except for one detail, the
speedometer. It’s a GPS speedometer. Guess what, it doesn’t work. When it comes to
adding technology to the old GT40 the GT40 says no thanks. As you’d expect the
steering is completely unassisted but the efforts aren’t as heavy as you might
imagine.Even if you’re picking your way through a parking lot, the reward for
your extra a little bit of effort is the level of detail about what the front
tires are doing that you will not find in a modern car. I challenge you to find
a more communicative vehicle in the modern context, doesn’t happen. In similar fashion, the brakes are
completely mechanical. It takes a lot of effort, but they are effective. When you
drive a GT40 every day is leg day. When you think of the concept of fun
there’s many kinds of fun.There’s like an evening at Chuck-E-Cheese and then
there’s like I survived the knife fight, this leans a little towards the knife
fight edge of the spectrum. Unlike cars that are built today, where
your mind can drift from the task at hand, Superformance GT40 Mark I demands
constant attention. If you like driving, and I mean really like driving,
this is the ultimate plaything. Iinsanely fast and delightfully
profitable, there are a few better automotive investments than a Ford GT,
but what if like me you don’t have the money or access to buy one, then Kelley
Blue Book’s five-year cost-to-own data is a doubly important way to maximize
your non-exotic car buying dollar. And just to keep you engaged we’re gonna
toss in some random GT shots while we educate. Let’s say you love car A, but car
B is a bit cheaper. Kelley Blue Book’s five-year cost-to-own incorporates a
bunch of data including projected resale values to estimate total expenditures
over an average ownership period. Run the numbers and the price of the car
you prefer might be the cheaper choice over time.
Voila! Unassailable financial justification to buy the thing you want.
You’re welcome. On that note, for better or worse, humans
have a knack for justifying our desires, but that tendency is far less nefarious
when supported by hard data in the automotive realm. The most truly
justifiable purchase is one that services both your wallet
and your soul, now which one does that best?

About the Author: Michael Flood

100 Comments

  1. The back end on that 2018 Ford GT is an absolute train wreck…..not to mention it has the wrong engine, if ever there was an engine for the Ford GT to have for eternity, it's most definitely a V8

  2. Right frommthe start this review pissed me off with the negative comments about paddle shifting over a gearbox. This argument has been played out odor years now. People liking the feel of shifting gears opposed to the faster response of a paddle shifter. If this guy was a decent reviewer why bring up an age old argument at thismmpoint.

  3. So Ford should build a car with slower responding gear box so some douche no one knows and no one cares about can enjoy a manual gear box. News flash Ford could give a S___ about you. That car was designed to destroy Ferrari. I love how A holes co,plain about American cars but when a American manufacturer builds an awesome car here comes loser critiquing every little nuisance

  4. The 2005-2006 will surpass the SUPERCAR once the hype is over and Ford v. Ferrari comes out in June. The "newer" GT is a terrible representation of a GT car because it is not really a track car, it is a rich man's play toy and none will ever see 10,000 miles. The Flying Buttresses are engineering fun but they also MISS lots of air going through them and not being directed anywhere. The engine compartment is devoid of an actual engine view (only the top in carbon fiber can be seen) and you cannot work on it. The GUTS of the original were reborn in Pardo's design and thus the 2005-2006 are the best long-term investment, plus they are nearly classic status (cars that are 20 years old). By 2030, the 2005-2006 will be antiques (25 years old). That is not far away. The 2005-2006, even with 20,000 miles (well driven) still fetch low $200,000s. At around 10,000 miles mid to upper 200's, lower than 5,000 miles, 300,000+. Gulf painted/Heritage models, already in the mid 400k range. If you think the 2005-2006 is not going to be America's first $1,000,000 investment grade sports car, you are mistaken. Absent the NICHE of the newer GT, which is not historically inspired at all – and barely faster than the 2005 by .50-.75 seconds., why would you invest in that car? It's styling looks more LOTUS than Ford GT. The interior sucks on the newer GT with shoulders touching all the time and who wants that on a half million dollar car? Talk about no "bro room." Weird. If you want to drive on a Sunday, you do not want to be rubbing shoulders with your buddy all day…..you don't, ask any Alfa Romeo 4C owner. The 2005-2006 model offers nearly 12" of room between passengers as it does not force the occupants inward, unlike the new model. For those reasons, the answer is easily the 2005-2006 GT. And a real enthusiast drives a "three pedal car." You cannot get the new GT in manual, and we all know the difference in price for a MANUAL Ferrari versus the same in automatic, nearly 25% more. They got it right in 2005-2006, they NEVER should have allowed this project to share the same name or be built imo.

  5. Just my opinion but the new GT just doesn’t capture what the GT originally was at all. The GT40 was a race car, completely raw and the driver was in charge of everything. The 05 GT was a tribute to the GT40, basically a raw sports car for the street. Only a little bit of assist (simply because it was a road going car) but otherwise driver focused. The new GT is nothing but a supercar, however it doesn’t really pay tribute to either of its predecessors as it has nothing in common with them. It takes the driver involvement out of the equation which makes it less exciting. Sure it looks crazy, but it’s not what the GT is supposed to represent.

  6. You can drive that 2018 monstrosity right off of that cliff! You can't call that a GT 40, you can't fuck with perfection. Why would you want to, any word on the price of that replica?

  7. 8:33 driving it for 13 years a lot of miles on it.. road trips etc.. and what a nasty downshift.. salute from Europe..

  8. Yes a V8 would have been much more fun – but the 2018 won Le Mans too plus the turbocharged v6 and aerodynamics/interior tech made it an amazing race car. It’s a shame they don’t give it a bit more recognition in this.

  9. If money wasn't a factor I'd take the 2nd gen. 1st version is too raw in handling, and the 3rd is just a bit gaudy looking.

  10. I remember seeing an original GT-40 at Bob Grossman’s Foreign Car Sales in Nyack, NY in 1970. It was previously raced and for sale. Price…$12,000.

  11. An awesome display of what Ford is capable of! Sorry Chevy, no offence Dodge, but where’s YOUR 5-time LeMans winner? Fords rock! 'Found On Road, Dominating!' Thanks very much for sharing this wicked cool video!

  12. I guess for historical purpose, the new Ford GT should also come with a manual transmission..yes it is slower than the dual-clutch paddle shifter but hey nothing beats the sensation of ramming the shifter hard when you accelerating, plus not many can drive stick shifter nowadays thus make your car safer from car theft.

  13. Id take the 2005 ANNNNY-DAY-Id take the P1 over the Senna ANNNNY-DAY—- Id take the Murcielago [roadster] over Aventador ANYYYY-day….

  14. Ok,,look.without the original gt40 you wouldn't have the 2005 model . put the 2005 model in a LeMans race . not a hope in hell,don't know about the 2018 mode but to be honest never can beat original. Hence this doesn't show one . so ,,,,,its simple ,,,which is the best ????

  15. Brauer is biased. Once you spend time behind the wheel of an '18 or '19, you would find out how to extract just as much, if not more, fun than found in the '05.

  16. 3:10 not actually true, there were a number of cars that entered more than once and won, here they are:

    Lorraine-Dietrich B3-6 1925-1926
    Bentley speed 6 1929-1930
    Alfa Romeo 8c 2300 1931-1934
    Jaguar D Type 1955-1957
    Porsche 956 1982-1985
    Porsche 962 1986-1987
    Peugeot 905 evo 1B 1992-1993
    Porsche wsc-95 1996-1997
    Audi R8 2000-2001
    Audi R10 tdi 2006-2008
    Audi R18 e-tron Quattro 2012-2013
    Porsche 919 Hybrid 2015-2017

  17. I just can't get excited about a V6, even a turbocharged V6. I don't like the way they sound, they are fundamentally an unbalanced engine, I just don't like them. I'll have a V8, if you want to build a 6 cylinder, make it a straight 6 with perfect balance!

  18. Had the pleasure of seeing the executive release of the 05 GT while being a buss boy at Henry Ford’s Museum in 2001. I think it was a yellow one with black stripes.

  19. The original for me! I know how to drive it, youngsters don't try! You die!!
    Traction control???? Why???
    Never needed b4 .
    One with the car and practice you can 😁

  20. I'll have the 60's version thanks! For daily driving I'm good with the modern stuff but for pure enjoyment I like old school manual, probably because it's what I learned on 😉

  21. .. and the GT40 floats at speed. The Ford GT took care of that. And if you want 2018 FORD GT HP (and actually a tad more), then you can go with a 2004 GTX1. But aside from that, for me, another great thing about the 2004 Ford GT is that it is RELIABLE. Its reliability and operating costs (higher reliability and MUCH lower operating costs compared to other "super cars") are outstanding!

  22. And I was going to buy used Toyota Camry… I can see you buy one of these used gt40s makes much more sense on the resale value…. Now I just have to mortgage my children….

  23. they actually makin 1,500 new ford GT's

    500 more with some "improvements"

    cuz ford wants to act like they're ferrari i guess

  24. How can u spend the time and money to shoot this video….
    And walk up with a reproduction…. &@%$#

    Something i would expect from a couple of kids…

  25. 13 years and 30,000 miles behind the wheel.

    “I have a lot of experience with it”

    Me: I got 11 years and 170,000 miles on my car. I’ll teach you about experience.

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