Kia Telluride vs. Hyundai Palisade vs. Ford Explorer — 2020 Midsize SUV Comparison Test

Kia Telluride vs. Hyundai Palisade vs. Ford Explorer — 2020 Midsize SUV Comparison Test


DAN EDMUNDS: Midsize three row
SUVs provide lots of utility at a reasonable price– usually between
$30,000 and $50,000, if you don’t go
nuts with options. They’re perfect for a
growing family and a stylish alternative to the minivan,
which doesn’t offer all wheel drive in most cases. You can expect lots of
advanced safety features, along with capable acceleration. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
The KIA Telluride is our number one ranked
midsize three row SUV, recently beating out
our previous favorite, the Honda Pilot. KURT NIEBUHR: Now we have
the new Hyundai Palisade and the all new Ford Explorer. We wanted to include a Honda
Pilot in this comparison test, but Honda declined. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
We put these SUVs through our rigorous
and standardized testing and evaluation process to
find out which of these three you’d have at the top
of your shopping list. DAN EDMUNDS: But
before we get started, remember to visit
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a new car, truck, or SUV. And for more videos like
this one, click Subscribe. JONATHAN ELFALAN: One of
the most important aspects of any midsize
three row SUV worth it’s sheet metal
is interior space. And we’ve crawled through
all three of these cabins pretty extensively. What did you guys think? KURT NIEBUHR: I
thought, when we’re talking about the front
rows on these things, any size driver is going
to be able to sit in them. There’s plenty of leg room,
headroom, shoulder room. That’s not the issue. It’s when you get
into the second row. That’s when things– DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah there are
definitely some differences back there. All of them have slide and
recline middle row seats. It’s interesting that the Ford
comes standard in most cases with captain’s
chairs and a bench is optional, whereas
on the Hyundai KIA, it’s the other way around. But with a seat
all the way back– I’m 6′ 2, so I notice it more– there’s just kind of
like a little less leg room in the Explorer. I felt like my knees are a
little closer to the front seat back. And I can sit behind
myself, technically, if I set the driver’s
seat to my liking. But in the other two, I
just have lots of room and the seats have
better cushioning, too. JONATHAN ELFALAN: It’s
probably a good time to mention car seats. So I tried installing car
seats in all three of the cars. As far as the seat
anchors, I found that the Ford had anchors that
are slightly more visible, which made it easier
to find and click in, whereas with the Telluride
and the Palisade, the anchors were a
bit more recessed. But when it came to
installing the seat base, all three were relatively easy. But having a larger,
rear facing car seat, I found that there
were significantly more space in the
Telluride and Palisade than there was in the
Explorer, where I could barely fit a hand in between the
driver’s seat and the car seat when it suggested for myself. I’m about 5′ 9, so
it wasn’t an issue. But I think drivers that
are 6 foot and taller might have an issue with that. KURT NIEBUHR: Speaking
of size issues, these are three row
SUVs, but that extra row is not really meant
for someone like you. But it was still
kind of eye opening to get in the back of these. I’m about 6 feet
tall, so I’m kind of at the limit as to
what you can reasonably expect a vehicle this
size to accommodate. But here we also saw
two of the vehicles have enough room
for people like me. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Third row seats are usually meant for children. But I feel like the
Telluride and the Palisade did an exceptionally good
job in making it actually pretty comfortable for adults. Now, in terms of access
to the third row– again, the Telluride
and Palisade have similar ways of
getting back there. There’s a release
button you press. And they actually have two–
there’s one on the shoulder, and one on the
bottom, which makes it easier for kids to access. And when you push that button,
the seat slides forward and you can just climb in. DAN EDMUNDS: One thing
I noticed about the Ford is if somebody wanted
to get in the third row, but it was folded
down flat, that you couldn’t do it from the door. You’d have to go around to
the hatch, open the hatch, and use the buttons there
to power the third row up and then go around and get in. JONATHAN ELFALAN: With the
KIA having manual fold seats, and the Palisade having power
fold seats, it didn’t matter. You could put the
third row seat up from either the rear
passenger door or the trunk. KURT NIEBUHR: Now, once we
actually sat in those back m it was also more
comfortable, I felt, in the Hyundai and the KIA. There was just that much more
room, not only for our bodies, but it was a better
place to sit. The Hyundai and the KIA– both had a cup holder, they
had USB power jacks back there. And the Ford, on the left
hand side, had an armrest. But your side– JONATHAN ELFALAN: That’s right. It was really strange,
Ford having some sort of asymmetrical arrangement. I went to go put my
arm on the armrest and found it sitting
in a bin instead, which was very uncomfortable. KURT NIEBUHR: Speaking of
bins, that kind of leads us back up to the front row. And each of these vehicles
has a different way of handling small items storage. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, the last
car I was in was the Explorer and I really liked the way
they’ve used the space there. It’s got a rotary shifter. I think all three of these
handle the shifter differently and the Ford is in
a nice rotary knob. It’s really easy to figure out. But what it means is
doesn’t take up much space. So there’s room for a nice
big bin in front of it that you can close, and
that’s where the USB port is. There’s a couple of cup
holders alongside the shifter and a little slot where you
can stand up your phone, so you can still
use the cup holders you don’t have to put your phone
in a cup holder, which is nice. Yeah and there’s a little place
where you can lean a phone up against a wireless charging
pad right behind that. And then there’s the center
console, which isn’t too huge. But since you’ve got the one
in the front, that’s not bad. And then the door pockets are
big and the glove box is big. And even the rear seat
has big door pockets. The center console in the
Ford Explorer is non-existent, it’s more of a
tray on the floor. They say that so you can
hop into the back row between the captain’s chairs. OK, but it is just
a tray on the floor. But still, it’s a
pretty good setup. JONATHAN ELFALAN: I found
that the Palisade also made good use of that
storage space up front. It also has a shift by wire,
gear selector up front. So you don’t have this
mechanical mechanism taking up a lot of space. DAN EDMUNDS: Push
buttons, though. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Push buttons– yeah I know. I mean we can argue that point. I think some people might
like it, some people not. But I think the fact is,
it saves space up front. KURT NIEBUHR: As big
as that space is, I think within a
month or two, that’s going to turn into like a junk
drawer in somebody’s house. I think you’re going to throw
hair clips in there, like cell phone cable,
sunglasses, car keys are going to get lost because
it’s got a little charging pad slot that actually disappears
underneath the shifter. And I didn’t run
into a time when I couldn’t find my car keys. And they’d actually
slid inside there. And I had to go
fishing around for it. But I think normal life is just
going to pile a bunch of stuff inside that bin. Yeah, the KIA does have a
more old school shifter. I kind of like that better. It has less space,
less actual volume. But I think the
KIA uses it better. I think you’ve got cup
holders that hold cups well. You’ve got a place
to put your phone. You’ve got not as
much space, but I think it just utilizes the
space and it has better. And if you open up the
center console bin, you can put a roll of paper
towels in there vertically. I don’t know why you would
ever want to do that, but– JONATHAN ELFALAN:
You know you can. KURT NIEBUHR: Yes. JONATHAN ELFALAN: It’s
just kind of cool. KURT NIEBUHR: Exactly. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
I know it doesn’t have quite as much
space as the other two, but I didn’t find myself
wanting for extra space. So even though I didn’t have
as much space, like you said, I think it makes good use
of the space it does have. And I also think it
looks kind of the nicest. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, sure. KURT NIEBUHR: I think
as long as you’re still sitting in the front
seats of these vehicles, we can talk about
climate control because each of these SUVs
handles it in their own way. The KIA has got three
vents across the center, tons of airflow. I was always comfortable. The Hyundai Palisade has two. And the Explorer also has two. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, but the
Explorer is a little different because they’ve got that
screen in the middle and the vents are
off to the side. And so that it doesn’t
really have the airflow down the middle of the car. It’s like right on your hand. So I didn’t really
like that so much. But the other thing that was
almost a little more annoying was I just never could quite
be comfortable without always fussing with the temperature. It’s not really very good at
just picking a temperature and setting it and forgetting. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
One thing that I did like about the Explorer
was how effective the seat ventilation and heat were. I mean, noticeably better than
both the KIA and the Hyundai. I think that’s maybe
enough to compensate for its lack of climate control. DAN EDMUNDS: But
this is a great way to talk about an SUVs interior. But they’re about carrying
cargo and doing some work. So we should talk about utility. All three of these, when you
have the rear seats folded down and the middle is
in use, they all have about the same
amount of space. But things start
to get different when you put up the third
row to put people in it. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Yeah we actually tried loading all three of these
with carry on luggage. And what we found is that
we could fit five regulation size carry on luggages
in the back of both the Telluride and the Palisade
and just hit the hatch button and have the hatch
close all by itself. DAN EDMUNDS: Five is good. You could go pick somebody
up from the airport and have the kids along. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Right. When it came to the
Explorer, and we did the same sort of method
with having an automated hatch close on its own, we
can only fit three. Now we were able to fit
four kind of laying down and squishing it a little bit. But depends on how much you
care about your luggage. If you’re cool with
that, then four will fit in the back
of the Explorer. KURT NIEBUHR: All three of
these also have their own way of folding that third row. The Hyundai Palisade
and the Ford Explorer, they’re power, the
KIA they’re manual. I actually prefer a
manual folding seat. It’s quick and easy. I’m tall enough, and
my arms are long enough where I can just reach
in and grab the strap and then the seat folds flat. But something to keep in mind
is that if the weather isn’t that great outside, if you
don’t live in sunny Southern California, to reach in and grab
that handle to raise the seats, you’re going to lean over a
muddy bumper or a wet bumper, or a bumper covered in
snow and your clothes are going to get ruined. DAN EDMUNDS: Right, and
if you’re not very tall, you might have a little bit more
trouble reaching in and pulling the strap up. KURT NIEBUHR: Yeah, I agree. JONATHAN ELFALAN: I also liked
the speed and ease of which those KIA seats folded. But I will have to say, I
was holding my baby girl and trying to put the seat
down, and you actually need to use two hands to both
raise and lower that seat. So when you grab
the strap, you need to pull it back and hold it
in place when you release it. DAN EDMUNDS: You just
dropped your child. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Exactly. Having the power release, other
than the convenience of it, still serves some use in
real world situations. DAN EDMUNDS: The other thing
is getting into the hatch of all these vehicles. They all have a cool, hands
free way to open the hatch. But they’re not quite the same. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
With the Ford, you have to do this kicking motion. And I think you
tried it a few times. How did you find that? DAN EDMUNDS: Well, you
have to stand on one foot and swipe your other
foot underneath it. And there’s a certain spot
it wants you to be at. If you don’t get it right,
you look kind of silly. But getting to your point
earlier about ice and snow, if this was winter
and it was icy, standing there on one foot
trying to get the door to behave, I don’t know– JONATHAN ELFALAN: While
holding shopping bags or your child trying to do
that it’s kind of awkward. Whereas with the
KIA and the Hyundai, they have this smart
tailgate where you just have to stand in
back of the tailgate, it beeps to let you know
that something’s happening. And then the tailgate
just opens, which I think is a brilliant solution. KURT NIEBUHR: Yeah, when I
first walked up and tried that on the Hyundai Palisade,
I swiped my foot and the hatch opened. And I only later
found out that no, it can sense where the
key is and then it beeps, and then it opens. You can just walk up
like you guys both said, you can walk up with your
arms full and just wait. You might look a little weird
and people might look at you and think that you’ve
lost your keys. But you just wait and that’s it. JONATHAN ELFALAN: But it’s
also not a perfect solution because there are times
where I was standing in my driveway
talking to my neighbor and I’m behind the Telluride
and all of a sudden it starts beeping. And you’re just like, oh
wait, I don’t want it to open. DAN EDMUNDS: I guess if you
stood back there and then started talking, got interrupted
by a dog walker coming by– JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Yeah, but it’s also nice to know that you
can turn that feature off if you don’t like it. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah. JONATHAN ELFALAN: So other
than hauling things inside, SUVs are generally more
capable at towing things than other types of vehicles. But since I don’t have any
real experience in this, maybe our resident tow
expert can shed some light. DAN EDMUNDS: Sure, and you know
there’s some big differences here because the Ford, in
its two wheel drive form, is rear drive. It was front drive in
the last generation but they changed
back to rear drive. The Hyundai and KIA are both
front drive machines at heart. So really, that’s an
advantage for Ford because you want your tongue
weight to be pressing down on the drive wheels. And you get that with a Ford. And that’s part
of the reason why I can tell a little bit more. It’s maximum tow rating
is about 5,600 pounds. And they have four engines and
even the hybrid can tow 5,000. The thing about the
Ford that is also good is that the hitch is right
there where you can see it, the connector for
the four and seven pin wiring is right there. Seven pin wiring means it’ll
support electric trailer brakes. You have to add your own
trailer brake controller, but that’s a plug and play
operation using a pigtail that comes in the glove box. So kudos to Ford for that. But the Hyundai and KIA,
they’re no slouch either. They can tow 5,000 pounds. And what’s good
about them is you can get load leveling
rear shocks with those. In the case of the Telluride,
it comes when you get the hitch. In the case of
the Palisade, it’s something that comes when
you get the 20 inch wheels. So it works even if you’re
not towing if you got three rows of people in there. And 5,000 pounds is
a nice solid number. And the one thing that the
Ford has over both of them is that it’s got
a tow haul mode. And that changes the shift
points and just makes it a nice drive when
you’re towing a trailer. KURT NIEBUHR: So that
rear drive platform has more benefits
than just being able to do power
slides in an SUV. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, I think so. But that’s a good one. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Speaking of power slides, let’s talk
about performance. DAN EDMUNDS: Finally. KURT NIEBUHR: So that
Ford is [BLEEP] fast. All right. That Ford is really fast. And we actually had two of the
available four engines come in. We had platinum with a
three leader twin turbo V6. And we had a limited with
a 2.3 liter turbo charge four cylinder. And they were both quicker
than the KIA and Hyundai. DAN EDMUNDS: The four
cylinder, the 2.3 liter four, got to 60 miles an
hour in seven seconds. And the V6, the 3 liter
V6, did in 5.8 seconds. So as you say,
that’s fairly fast. KURT NIEBUHR: Just what you
want out of three row SUV. JONATHAN ELFALAN: I don’t think
anything else in this segment even comes close to
that three liter. I mean, they’ve put
their stamp on that. And that’s not the only
thing that Ford does well. It actually handles,
quite surprisingly well. I think you said it
at the track where this is more like a tall wagon
than a midsize three row SUV. But that said, the
Hyundai and KIA aren’t slouches in
a straight line. I think 7 and 1/2 seconds to 60. Considering these things
are primarily people movers, I think we could call
those both adequate. DAN EDMUNDS: Oh, sure. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Now,
in terms of handling, I felt like the Telluride and
Palisade also weren’t bad. They’re not going to feel like
a vehicle that you can go out and you’d want to
attack a back road in. But at the same time, they
handled themselves pretty well. DAN EDMUNDS: The Ford Explorer
would be a little bit more enjoyable to drive. It’s just really nice
on a winding road. Steering loads up
nice in corners. And it just has nice
balance and composure. JONATHAN ELFALAN: So performance
is kind of a fun thing to talk about, but it’s
not all about performance, especially with these
types of vehicles. So driveability– I think with
the Ford and its new 10 speed automatic transmission, I found
that it wasn’t quite as smooth as I would have wanted
it to be if I was driving this thing every day. Like the performance,
it’s got it. It’s got it. But it seems like it’s tuned
a little too aggressively, would you say? DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, it
feels really eager. You really feel the boost,
not so much the eco. And it really wants to go. And that shows in
our mpg results. The Hyundai and the KIA
are both rated at 21 miles per gallon combined. And the 2.3 liter
Ford is rated at 23. And so it should be two better
based on similar driving. But what we saw
is that everything got 21 miles per gallon. JONATHAN ELFALAN: With the
Ford, the way that it’s tuned, you want to almost dig
into that boost, which is going to cost you mpgs. KURT NIEBUHR: Yeah,
that eagerness in the Ford, where
it’s always on and it feels like
it’s always ready, also was kind of
found in the ride too. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Yeah you bring
up a good point with comfort. So with the Ford, I found
that it had good primary ride but not good secondary ride. And what I mean
by that is that it was able to handle the
big stuff really well. But some of the finer
undulations in the road really came through and it made
the ride feel a little busy, following every little detail
of the road surface, which I didn’t feel in the
Telluride or the Palisade. Now, those suspensions
are by no means perfect. But I felt like they
absorbed a lot more of that secondary
jitteryness better. DAN EDMUNDS: I think
they were a little more consistent across a wider
range of road surfaces. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
All of these SUVs can be had with all wheel drive. And all of our test cars
came with all wheel drive. These systems aren’t
necessarily geared for any hardcore off-road. It’s more inclement weather. But that said, we did
spend a little bit of time with these things off road. And by we, I mean Dan. So Dan, what do you think? DAN EDMUNDS:
Inclement weather is the main reason for having
all wheel drive, here. But they can do a little
bit more than that. We had a little off road
course, we could take them on. The Hyundai and KIA both
have a four wheel drive lock button, which doesn’t
necessarily lock the center differential, but it makes sure
that the front and rear axle have equal amounts of torque. It’s not waiting for
slip to engage an axle, it’s just making it be
engaged all the time. The Ford has something
similar, but it’s kind of buried into a setting
that they call trail. And then there’s another
one for sand and deep snow. So you have a couple of
different settings there. They all have about the
same level of articulation. None of them really hiked
the wheel any further off the ground than
any of the others. But ultimately, if we all
took all three of these out someplace, it’s
not like one of them was going to be holding
up the other two. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
Pretty equally capable. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah,
but it’s going to be you know dirt roads,
not the Rubicon trail. JONATHAN ELFALAN: OK,
moving on to technology. All these SUVs were equipped
with some pretty advanced driving aids, like
adaptive cruise control. They had lane keep assists. They had blind spot monitoring. And all worked fairly
well, I think pretty even in that field. But I think what grabs
people’s attention even more today is the
infotainment systems and smartphone integration. What do you guys
think about those? KURT NIEBUHR: Unsurprisingly,
the Hyundai and KIA systems were basically the exact same. Has its own Font. Yeah, shocker. But also, both of them
were the same size. As 10.25 inches for both,
It’s the traditional landscape layout. DAN EDMUNDS: Widescreen
landscape, really nice. KURT NIEBUHR: Yeah, but
Ford had a better idea. DAN EDMUNDS: The one that
everybody talks about is the 10.1 inch portrait
oriented screen that’s right in the middle. It looks like an
iPad sitting there. And we like the portrait
oriented screen at around 1500, but this one is
quite a bit narrower. And so when you run Apple
CarPlay or Android Auto, the screen is kind of
small, the useful part. The bottom half doesn’t really
have anything going on, either. So I like the lower
level eight inch screen, which is landscape oriented. And you get a little tray
underneath it, which I like. I mean I can actually put
my phone right in there. JONATHAN ELFALAN: Now,
what is that thing about having CarPlay plugged
in and using the native nav. DAN EDMUNDS: As soon as
you plug-in your phone, it wants you to
use the navigation system through Apple CarPlay,
and the native nav winks out. And it’s like, no, I need to be
in both environments at once. The Ford isn’t really very happy
doing that, whereas the Hyundai and KIA are just fine. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
But I will say this– the benefit of that larger
vertical screen on the board is that if you’re using the
native navigation system, and you like to run in
the direction of travel, you do have a long runway
to see what’s coming up. DAN EDMUNDS: Oh, yeah. JONATHAN ELFALAN: You
can see a lot of streets. DAN EDMUNDS: You
know, the one thing we haven’t talked about
yet is probably the most important thing, is price. So how much do
these things cost? KURT NIEBUHR: Well, that’s
a tough question to answer. All of these things have a
pretty broad price range. And I think it depends on what
you want as far as options go. You can buy all three of these
vehicles in a base two wheel drive configuration. That Palisade starts at 32,645,
the Telluride at 32,785, and the Explorer XLT
starts at 37,870. Now, there is a more basic
Explorer than the XLT but that’s probably
just for fleet sales. But if you can
find one of those, that’s going to start at 33,860. All the ones we drove are
highly optioned all wheel drive versions. The Palisade limited
stickered at 47,605, the Telluride SX at 46,860
and they Explore Platinum at, get this, 61,330. Now 61k is pretty steep,
and most people probably won’t pay that much
for an Explorer. So we brought in a limited
with a four cylinder engine to see if that
would help its case. No, that stickered at 53,120. JONATHAN ELFALAN:
I mean, that just goes to show you where the
Telluride and the Palisade are at. Like, I don’t think you could
get those things above 50 if you threw everything at it. Yet, they had the same number
of features as the Ford, and, in some ways,
felt better built. Like, I think the interior
quality of both those cabins were really nice, the
materials that they use, everything felt solidly
screwed together. So KIA and Hyundai are
providing a real value at this price point. And I think they’ve
set a new benchmark for this class in that sense. So with the Ford, I mean,
that’s a hefty price tag. So what are we getting? DAN EDMUNDS: Where the money
is in the Ford, I think, is in the rear drive layout. They’ve got some really cool
forged aluminum control arms underneath there. There’s the 10 speed automatic
four engines with turbocharger. So there’s a lot of
money in the engineering. But it’s not the kind of
thing that you’re going to see each and every day. It does lead to sharper handling
and a couple of other things. But as far as just commuting
to the store or whatever, you’re not going to
necessarily see it. So it’s kind of like a
case of, you don’t quite get what you pay for. KURT NIEBUHR: So we talked
about a lot of stuff. We tallied up all the scores. And one of these vehicles
comes out in first place. But that means one
of these vehicles comes out in last place. JONATHAN ELFALAN: This
is the best Explorer that Ford has ever
built. And I think it could be an attractive
option if you’re going to be doing a lot of towing. And if you live up
in the mountains, you could be driving a
lot of mountain roads. But fact of the matter is,
the benchmark has been moved. And the KIA and Hyundai are
really, really good SUVs. KURT NIEBUHR: Both
of those vehicles don’t really have any flaws. They do everything
that they’re supposed to do– they’re smooth or
quiet, they’re comfortable, they carry people. Also, in a lot of comfort,
they can still tow. My preference, though,
would lean toward the KIA. I think it has a
richer interior. And I think it fits
in with the brand. I know that styling
is very subjective and it always will be. But the KIA is instantly
recognizable as a KIA. And I think the
Palisade doesn’t seem to fit in with other Hyundais. DAN EDMUNDS: Yeah, I’m
totally with you there. I like to Telluride because
it’s got its own personality. People stop me at gas stations
and they wondered what it was. One of them thought
it was Land Rover. And I don’t see that
exactly, but I do see that it looks really unique. JONATHAN ELFALAN: So it
sounds like we decided. Explorer, Palisade, Telluride. The Telluride
remains our top pick in this segment against some
pretty formidable competition. It received an impressive
score of 8.4 out of 10 overall, which is to say we
really like this thing. But let us know what you
think down in the comments. Be sure to hit subscribe if you
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  1. Edmunds … Hmmm, OK…I think you hit it PERFECTLY!! KIA, Hyundai, and FORD. I am totally amazed at the Korean brand SUV's!! Totally shocked how FORD ruined the Explorer. Going rear wheel drive for a grocery getter and the exorbitant pricing!! YIKES!! Absolutely NO NO NO value with the FORD. Eeeeeeeesh!!

  2. Used to be a Ford guy. The stuff is still well built, but the prices are just ridiculous compared to what you can get for much less. Just a few months ago I went to buy an F150 or maybe even a Ranger…..spent the entire day trying to work with them to make something happen and didn't even get close to what I wanted to spend. Hit a couple other dealers and finally went to a Dodge dealership. We were done by lunch and I had saved about ten thousand on a much better equipped, much more comfortable and better looking vehicle. Now we're looking at replacing the wife's Explorer that we both like for the most part, but I know that we're probably not going to go with a Ford again once we start looking. Hell we're really interested in checking out the Lincoln SUV's, but unless we get a great deal on one they aren't that much nicer than the Kia and they cost about 30-40% more. For what? And a 100K mile warranty is pretty attractive.

    If you care about performance the ecoboost stuff with that 10 speed automatic is really nice. If you care about bang for buck it's really hard to look at Fords right now.

  3. I saw one on the road the other day, and it sure caught my attention, it was different and attractive coming on the road. Good Job KIA

  4. The Portrait screen that ford and dodge use is retarded. It looks nice to those who do not use Apple or Android. But, for someone who does use it (90% of us) the portrait screen is lame sauce. KIA and Hyundai got it down pat, their infotainment is even better than BMW who can't even support Android auto because they keep the R&D money for their mansions, hookers, and pool parties and do not care about their customers.

  5. Nobody cares what you guys think. Just show the vehicles and let's see them in action, were adults and can decide what we like.

  6. Honestly the Palisade and Kia are the same vehicle. Suspension is different. Palisade has more tech but most everything else is cosmetics.

  7. I have owned the Palisade Limited since August and enjoy everything about it! I was going to purchase the Kia first however every dealership I went to didn’t have the higher end model available and you could only preorder the model which was being marked up $5,000 over sticker price.

  8. No comment on the Ford Pass ????? . Support North America auto companies that supported a lot of families for many years , and the Economy . They are a lot better than these auto journalists give them credit.

  9. Agreed with everything here. Kia #1. Hyundai #2. Ford at #3 because its price tag is WAY out of wack in comparison. Kia and Hyundai have set a new benchmark with offering far more bang for a whole lot less buck. Ford, while nice, overpriced by long long shot. For my $$'s, it is KIA all the way.

  10. Explorer messed up big time. They bumped the price and put a gigantic vertical tablet on the console but forgot the basics.

  11. I have looked at all 3 vehicles…pretty extensively and I can say that I totally agree with your review. The Explorer is very nice (and a lot better than older models of this car). But both the Telluride and the Palisade are superior in multiple ways…and at a lower price. Like you, my preference is the Telluride, but I don;t think you can go wrong with either of those SUVs. It's a bummer that Honda didn't send you a Pilot to compete…but I'm not surprised. I think they knew it wouldn't stack up against these. And I say that as a Honda owner and fan. Hyundai and Kia have really stepped up the game.

  12. I am a very traditional guy. I really hate the new design of the explorer, I have had 3 explorers and have been fairly satisfied. But I reject the entire look of the 2020 version.

    Looks a lot like an old Toyota highlander to me.

  13. Just bought a Telluride but it took a lot of negotiating because although MSRP is at $48,000 they have added a $7,500 market adjustment. One dealer would not budge at all and the other one took hours but I eventually got it down to $1,500 over MSRP.

  14. Pilot and it’s cousin MDX both look very 8 years ago. Nothing special, move on. I see both driving by at a strip mall and think “meh”. I see a Telly go by and it’s “wow, look at that”. Palisade has a nice look but that front end looks like the product of a 3 way between Lexus, Infiniti, and The Predator. Explorer has a nice look in certain trims.

  15. Reviewers..thank you all for telling me your height! As a Clydsdale guy, at 6'5" and 340lbs I read reviews for bikes, motorcycles, uber rides…and of course cars and it's meaningless if there is no reference if I can actually fit into the ride…so thanks again!

  16. The Kia value goes away when the dealers are currently selling them $5k – $12k above MSRP. Plus, you have to deal with Kia dealers and service. I want the outside of the Telluride and the inside of the Palisade.

  17. The Palisade is clearly superior to the Telluride. It costs less but has more standard features and a better warranty than the Telluride. Enough said. People seem to either love or hate the exterior aesthetics of the Palisade but it certainly looks more upscale than pretty much anything it competes directly with. That's largely because the Palisade was originally developed for Genisis, Hyundai's luxury wing, but Hyundai liked it so much that they decided to keep it for themselves when Genisis split.

    So you like the way the Telluride looks more than the Palisade? Fine. But ask yourself this… do you like the Telluride's looks so much more that you willing to pay more for a vehicle with fewer features and a worse warranty?

  18. I’ve never lost my keys in my center console. Funny that the guy in the white shirt complained about that. Dude put your keys in your pocket.

  19. Great video. Yes I agree. I’ve done tons of research. And Telluride comes out ahead. The bad thing is finding one. It’s like seeing big foot or a UFO. I have mine on 𝙾𝚛𝚍𝚎𝚛 they are saying over three months I’m hoping sooner but not even one to test drive. All the reviews can’t be wrong. Wish me luck. Thanks again.

  20. Ford should have updated the Flex. That would have been a better comparison since that is what the Hyundai and Kia is similar to

  21. If you like the luxurious style get the palisade if you like the rugged look and feel get the telluride if you just want the most powerful engine get FORD??🤷🏾‍♂️

  22. What? Because Honda didn't give you a Pilot you couldn't just get your hands on any of the thousands of available Honda Pilots everywhere and anywhere even though you wanted to do this review with it? Don't be so cheap. Spend the few hundred dollars….

  23. Buyer be ware!!!! I was considering KIA Terluride but when we went to test drive it, the dealer told us due to high demand all the KIA dealers were selling a few thousand dollars above the MSRP. That is not OK with me, or anyone I know. If I was going to spend that much money, I’d go next door to BMW. Very disappointed by KIA; bought a Lexus and I had an incredibly positive experience at the Lexus dealership; if you are in the LA area, go to Keyes Lexus in Van Nuys. They are extremely customer-focused, have an incredible inventory, and know how to earn a customer-for-life.

  24. You where opening the rear lift gate of the ford wrong. That’s why you struggled. You just kick between the exhaust like your kicking a ball.

  25. It's weird watching 3 corporate guys sit in a meeting and talk about the cars. Not really a review. Very ineffective.

  26. real world pricing 2/1/2020: Ford Explorer is discounted 8-11k plus 2-3.5k rebates. You can get an ST or Platinum for 45.5 k – 47k (Auto Mall of Georgia). The local Kia dealer (this is straight from the sales person) is pricing the Telluride $2300 above MSRP (and I am only a few hundred miles from the factory). The top of the line Telluride will cost about 49k. I have seen the lower level Palisade advertised about 2k below MSRP (around 38k) but I can't confirm that. You know how auto dealers like to lie about pricing.

  27. Back in the day, late 50's and early 60's Chrysler products had push button gear selectors, maybe other makes did too

  28. Honda…this is not 80s or 90s you need to strip up the game.

    Explore is for good looking but really a $30,000 vehicle

    Korean cars…better buy them before they jack up the price!!

  29. the explorer couldnt be more ugly… the interior is even worse. I would pick the KIA I think… but i also love Hyundai so omg.. lol so hard to pick one!

  30. 1 thing about the korean towing is they seems to have cheated. The tong weight wich is usualy 10% of the towing capacity is only 350lbs wich might be a problem if you want to tow 5000lbs. But still I'd take the Palisade with the KIA exterior if it could be possible..

  31. These reviewers are either biased, ignorant or is lying and being paid by other manufacture. They compare an apple to oranges and is way off on real-life prices of vehicles. All 2020 Explores are based on a rear wheel drive architecture that improves handling and this one has a powerful twin turbo V6 engine and an advanced 10 speed transmission with 4WD capability. All these things will inherently cost more relative to Kia and Hyundai which are front wheel drive cars, AWD, with wimpy engines and average handling. This Explore also comes with more technology from 12 inch color LCD instrument cluster to massaging seats to other advanced safety tech that others don’t. Finally, Ford always has a huge markup with their MSRP, meaning a $60K Explorer can be bought for $51k or 52k. Now, it quickly is at the same price point of a fully loaded Kia but the Explorer has all the performance of a high-end BMW X5 that costs about $80.
    By the way, Kia is a cheap knock off of the real BMW X5 interior and it will depreciate much faster than the Explorer. Just look at all other used Kia and Hyundai and you’ll see what I’m talking about. So the reviewers not only dismisses the critical differences, but they also got the overall purchase cost wrong. It’s unfortunate that many people will watch and believe these bozos.

  32. I have stout fat legs and they like to splay.
    A wide center console would make me feel too cramped and uncomfortable.

  33. “I don’t think anything in that segment even comes close to that 3L, they put their stamp on that.”

    Tesla Model X: Am I a joke to you?

  34. Honda declined? That's a dumb reason not to include it. I'm sure u guys could have gone out and found one where u weren't asking mama Honda for permission

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