This Device Just Killed Someone (Don’t Install on Your Car)

This Device Just Killed Someone (Don’t Install on Your Car)


rev up your engines sometimes convenience is not worth the price sure it’s great if you got a remote starter you push a
button you’re living a buffalo start your car in a driveway so it can warm up
the snow just will melt off it’ll be warm inside but if you’re a car did not
come from the factory with one of those remotes starting systems on it please do
not attempt to either install on yourself or have someplace install it on
your car if you’re tempted not to listen to me just go look at a kit go to some
electronics store look at the kit you are going to see wires everywhere then
it has to be connected to your car they never give you the directions of each
specific model they say generic stuff like this goes to the power wire this
goes to the starter wire Yatta Yatta Yatta start looking at all
the wires on the car especially when you go under the hood and you start messing
with all the wiring that’s in there yeah look at that bundle of wires there you’ll soon discover that hooking one of these kits off is an insanely complex job and one
which even for a good mechanic can take hours in hours I’ve seen people leave
them off two days later the guys don’t have them hooked up right yet I have to
deal with the other end of this stuff somebody puts one in cars to be towed to
me cause either right away or a few weeks or months later the car doesn’t
start or starts running poorly your electrical system has various wires they
have various amount of power going to them it’s very complicated it’s designed
by engineers now if you bought a car and it was built at the factory with one
okay yes it’s extremely complicated but actual engineers designed it for that
car for that wiring system for that remote that you get when you buy the car
new but these are not systems you’re patching them into the car no one really
tests them on all different cars maybe they work great in a Ford but you got a
Toyota you don’t want to mess with those things believe me I had a customer he wanted one in his car so he wants in one of these car stereo
places cuz they got a big sign we install remote starting systems for your
car now yes this is an extreme case but I’ve seen it with my own eyes they’re
working on the car the dash started on fire burnt a whole
bunch of the car up but at least luckily for my customer the car stereo place was
a national chain and they did have insurance I ended up forking out over
five thousand dollars to fix that fire that they started it’s rather funny
that although they are a remote starting system for your car one of the biggest
problems they have is when you put one in some point in time your car won’t
start and I mean it won’t start with the remote then I won’t either start with a
key sometimes because one of the worst things you can do is to put one system
on top of another system even a simpler thing like a car burglar alarm I’ve had
customers didn’t know that much about cars and they thought it all I’ll put a
good burglar system on my car so they buy one of these systems and either they
put it on or they pay one of those stereo places to install the alarm
system on their car but they didn’t realize how I already had an alarm
system from the factory almost all cars today come that way an aftermarket alarm system on top of the system that was in the car it went haywire and unfortunately for them it worked okay for months the battery went dead then one got another battery when you put that
batter in car would start and so they towed it over to me and I said well you
got a problem with your anti-theft system I said you got the little clicker
for it they have the little clicker but that
didn’t help it happened to be a Nissan I said well where’s your remote
for turning an alarm off for the Nissan and they said oh I don’t know I bought
the car used I never got one of those I just used the key and then this system
that they put on it so it turned out of course still had the original Nissan
anti-theft system that had this other system on top of it you mix those
together sometimes when you change the battery the system has to start over it
gets totally confused because it sees that there’s this factory alarm system
but then there’s another system that’s patched on top of that in the case of
that one I just disconnected the aftermarket alarm
system that was put on then the car started up fine and sure if you don’t what something stolen great you’re talking about electronics
you can’t patch one system on top of another system
I even had a customer that had three of them had the original one had an
anti-theft system then it had one of these remote starters just as put on top
of it and man when that thing broke I had to disconnect a whole bunch of
stuff just to get it to start because when I was young ganic that stuff was
easy to do they had an ignition system with power the carburetor was mechanical it just pumped fuel and mechanically the only thing you had to do show off the
ignition system in a car wouldn’t start but today everything’s run by computer
even the starters run by computer the ignition system the fuel injection
system and if you start tapping into those wires even something like an LED
that would use just a few milli amps of power is enough to make those things go
squirrelly at times and believe me it’s hard enough pretty good mechanic like me to fix a factory remote starting system that came with the car that at least I go
to my all data system I can look stuff up I can see where the wires go I can
trace it if somebody has one of these aftermarket systems put on generally I
don’t get any information especially if the system was made in China I mean
sometimes the English doesn’t even make sense on those things I’ve had wiring
diagrams from that made no sense at all of course even worse things were Chinese characters hi no idea what those met and if you do have one of these aftermarket
systems hooked up and it breaks a lot of times you’re gonna find a hard time
finding anybody who will even work on I’m an open mind a guy helped out my
customers and when I get a pain thing like that I just say to them look this
aftermarket system is insanely complicated I have no idea what they’ve
done to it you don’t have a wiring diagram for it I just say look I know
how your original wiring system is I say I can look that up on my all data and
what I will do is I’ll disconnect all the wires that they’ve hooked up and I
will reconnect them all to the factory specifications they still make cars
logically that all the wires are color-coded so if you have a black
with a white stripe wire and then there’s stuff hooked to it and then
further down the line there’s another wire hooked to the black with the white
stripe on it you disconnect all the stuff that they added and just splice
the black with the white to the black with the white again and that’s back to
where it started from and just a general tip for anybody who’s planning on
putting any add on electronic accessories to their vehicle here’s my advice
see this big battery it’s got huge wires on it right go through the extra trouble
of wiring your new devices directly to your battery with their own wires with
their own few systems and if it’s something heavy-duty
with its own relay pack to so it can take that power because the plain truth
about modern cars it is they’re always trying to save money building up so
they’re gonna use the smallest gauge wire with the thinnest amount of copper
in it that they can the system is made that it works perfectly fine the way it
was designed yeah if it’s a Fiat or something then
it’s even designed but a well-made car Toyota Honda for do something it’s
designed with wiring that works perfectly fine but generally a wiring
system is pretty close to its maximum capability the way it was built and if
you start adding more power to those wires it’s a recipe for disaster
here’s an example that wasn’t that big of a deal but it proves my point
not a customer wanted to put brighter lights on his Honda so you want bought
these super-bright light bulbs and stuck them in headlights a man they were
certainly bright but one day he came to me and he said I turned my headlights on a
little switch and after a while that switch starts to get kind of hot well
the reason was getting hot is because those bulbs took so much power that that
switch had to send more power through and it originally did so I told them hey
if you really like the lights here’s what we can do we can just run a new
switch system for your headlights we get a nice switch heavy duty one 20 amps switch and ran the power directly from the battery to the switch and then from the switch
to a relay and the relay sent power to the headlights know most people doing a
modify car like that so really don’t put really brighter
headlights in if your headlight switch is starting to get hot go back to the
other ones but if you really want them you can just rewire the whole system
because realize can take a lot of power the power goes from the battery to the
relay and sits there then when you turn your switch on that energizes the reel I
saw the power goes from the battery to the relay and then directly to the
headlights the heavy-duty power isn’t going through the headlight switch
anymore so you don’t have to worry about getting hot when you’re dealing with
these remote starting systems they have so many wires to go to so many different
places you’d have to put relays all over the place and you’d have to have a
guy who really understood the wiring of your car because it’s too complicated in
a modern car with all those tiny little computer waters you got a remote starter
who knows these days what’s gonna happen with all the electromagnetic
interference and wireless devices somebody might be on their phone messing with something your car might start up who knows I remember years ago when I
was going to school I had a friend lives out in the country and they found out that when they got on their CB radio at a
certain frequency it would open this guy’s automatic garage opener so when
people got drunk they put the CB radios on and they’d opened up his garage just
roll laughing and now this is an extreme example but just a short time ago a guy
was killed he was from New York City was 21 years old he was killed by a remote
starting system Canada in his Lexus it was an aftermarket one that was put in
it wasn’t the factory was an aftermarket one and he was standing between the guys car in another car walking out of the street the guy with the lexus pushed his remote starter the car started and somehow drove into him and it was crushing his
leg people tried to push it off but it kept pushing it in the guy ended up
dying so I mean that’s no laughing matter the aftermarket remote system killed somebody so if you’re thinking about
putting one of these aftermarket remotes starting systems in your car place
listen to Scotty don’t do it who knows you might even say someone’s life,
so if you never want to miss another one of my new car repair videos, remember to
ring that Bell

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  2. China made chevy start to buy after market…$800.00 I had one installed by a certified auto start installer make sure they have the security by pass code 4yrs running fine 2013 chevy cruze

  3. I normally agree with EVERYTHING scotty says, But he's wrong on this one. A negligent remote start installer can cause a terrible reaction to your car. BUT! as a installer for the past 12 years & having friends in the install field, If its done write, it will work perfectly fine.i can count on 1 hand the amount of times a customer has come back saying something is wrong.

  4. Scotty… I really enjoy watching your daily videos. I have a 06 Cadillac STS V6 3.6L VVT DI. This car was a hand me down from my family since in the trade in world it's pretty much worth nothing. The car is in great shape 105K but has been your "Endless Money Pit" already. I have been having oil consumption issues with this vehicle. It's random on how much it goes through and when it happens. From what I have read in forums so far there is a issue with the PCV valve/Opening to the timing chain area. There is some gasket you can replace but hell I don't want to put that money into this car. I have been hearing you talk about PCV vales and I'm curious if you think this could be why the oil consumption is random. Like it's sticking or ???? I'd love your input on this and how hard it is for it to be replaced. If it's easy enough to get to I'd just try to do it myself.

  5. What about getting the OEM remote starter installed by the dealership? Being a Chicagoan, I instantly regretted not getting one at the time of purchase of my Subaru Crosstrek.

  6. “Its no laughing matter. The after market remote system killed someone” i really didnt wanna laugh but i was jinxed. Anytime anyone starts a sentence saying dont laugh or this isnt funny my brain just goes into rebellion mode.

  7. Thanks for the info Scotty.
    Can you talk about aftermarket kill switches? I mean, are they good to have or just as dangerous as the remote starter?

  8. No point to these in my town anyway—it's illegal here to leave your car running unattended—wastes gas, too tempting for thieves…

  9. Wow I was just going to purchase a car starter for my car because it gets very cold where I live in Canada…Thank u Scotty u save me a lot

  10. I've always been scared to park a car with a remote starting system in my garage because I don't want to wake up dead from being poisoned. I don't trust it!

  11. Hi! I'm looking to buy my 1st car and am considering the following:
    1. 1996 Honda Accord LX with 124,000 miles
    2. 2008 VW Jetta 2.5 with 158,000 miles
    Both are $2500 and both have MANUAL transmissions. Which one should I choose? How's the reliability of the Jetta? Thanks!!

  12. I have had 5 new cars over the last 12 years and have had Car Starter /Alarms installed in all of them with out the slightest problem. I live in Northern Canada and to me they are a must. Are car's getting more complicated Yes and the Installers grow with the trade just like a Mechanic must learn new skills. So Scotty just because you are not very good at installing the Units, don't crap on the people who have been doing it for years and have advanced there skills at installing as the cars have advanced. It is up to the consumer to pick the correct shop and check the back ground of the installer's. I am assuming the average person who drove by your outdoor shop might think there driving past a junk yard. (Don't judge a book by it's cover) I enjoy watching your video's as you have many year's of experience and dispense very good information. So insted of making a video and ranting away you should have went out to some shops and proved your theroy.

  13. Love my remote start on our Toyota Sienna. But hate Toyota’s programming that kills the engine when you open the door. In all other remote starts, you get in, push the brake and hit the start button, and it goes into regular mode. I expect better from Toyota! Lawyers I’m sure 🤪

  14. In all the years of working on cars I have installed 2 systems and have removed hundreds with issues messing with the can bus. Now anytime I have any kind of pcm issues and it has a aftermarket remote it is the first thing to be removed. Customers hate hearing this but if you can't diagnose you can fix.

  15. i installed a remote start on my old camry at 190k and at 320 never game be a problem my new one i had dealer install pre purchase

  16. i installed a remote start on my old camry at 190k and at 320 never game be a problem my new one i had dealer install pre purchase took him half hour

  17. Says the guy from Texas… My last few cars have had remote starter installed. Before that I’ve had an aftermarket starter installed for every car I’ve owned since the early 90s. 7 vehicles in total.

    Most worked better than the modern factory installed starters. Modern systems have 10-15min limits as well as max number of times the systems can run before needing a key start. Like everything, a quality system installed by someone who knows what they’re doing is fine.

  18. This is a load of CRAP. Way to go. Typical mechanic blaming the remote start for every problem in the car. Remote starts that are PROPERLY INSTALLED by a certified technician can last forever and never cause a single issue and here you are affecting installers business by spreading this nonsense. I know wires and electricity is real scary for mechanics but you need to stop trying to scare everyone else out of these just because you don’t like them.

  19. I don't know wtf is going on with your america but in every other country we have Automotive electricians/electronic so yeah…the remote start is complicated enough but the car burning? Not a chance we have fuses and other safety features in our cars and you don't even know what and how …a burglar system is easy to install so is to disable/trespass the oem one or maybe oem remote central locking so..yeah don't trust accessories stores i guess…(sorry for my poor english..not native)

  20. You're going to even attempt that you go to somebody who does that as their stock and trade. Not a stereo shop that dabbles in it, somebody who installs electronic starting systems on Modern cars. They do have a pretty good idea what they're doing and you could tell if you asked to see some of their work that they actually pretty much know what they're doing if you have any idea on how to properly splice wires. A lot of stereo shops are just cutting wire and twisting it together and putting wire nuts on the damn things. If you see that you run, not walk, run away.

  21. That's why I love my 2001 tundra, everytime I turn the key damn sucker always turns on. No need to remote start or even a stupid plastic key fob.

  22. I’ve had the same viper alarm with remote start with the full color screen display remote for almost 10yrs. Only had to replace the remote once, display went out but the remote is still fully functional. I have another remote start system on my truck no issues. Been using remote start systems since around 2006 on 5 different vehicles all professionally installed nobody died and never had any issues.

  23. Lol wires are the past!!! In the shop I work in they just reprogram the computers to have a remote start. No more cutting or splicing you just have to be tech smart🤯 also have a newer car 😂

  24. If you have a remote starter on your car with a manual transmission and you leave the vehicle in reverse before shutting the car off(as many people will) when you start the car via remote, the car will literally start driving in reverse as soon as the engine starts. I watched it happen to a guy many years ago and the car reversed itself into the side of a building, thankfully not into anybody walking behind it. But even still you really don't want a remote start w/ manual transmission, it's not recommended at all.

  25. I knew a guy who put in a remote start in his sentra, with a manual transmission. He forgot that he left it in Reverse, started it, and it ended up in a ditch.

  26. What about adding a back up camera splicing into the taillight, back up light assembly. Does this mess up the electrical system?

  27. I put the alarm/remote start myself on my car. I made sure I understood the system before starting the job. Now I KNOW the installation was done right instead of second guessing someone else's work. Also before anyone says something, I made sure in case something goes bad I can just pull one plug and the car it back to normal.

  28. The key thing you mentioned was regarding wires, "They have various amount of power going through them". I wish for the love of god people understood that. The number of cars that get plagued by parasitic load is insane. Some devices can keep sucking power from your car even when you have it off.

    If a job looks complicated from the start, don't attempt to do it on your own. Especially if that car is your daily driver.

  29. It's not "insanely difficult" but certainly not a job for a someone who doesn't understand cars and electronics. Use your head.
    I personally installed remote start on my '95 Golf (built 10/94) which does have a standard transmission but did not come with a clutch safety switch to prevent starting without depressing the clutch.
    I only use remote start from my house during winter to warm up the car before driving, that's it .
    Very simple – I do not leave the car in gear when parked in my driveway, only the parking brake (and no, it's not going anywhere as I've adjusted the parking brake myself).
    Long before performing this modification, I bought a hard rubber parking curb to stop the car from rolling forward into my house should the brake ever decide to fail since my driveway slopes towards the house. There's no need to leave the car in gear when it's rested against the parking curb. She won't budge at all. Even if I were to accidentally forget to leave it in neutral, it would immediately stall out.

    Disclaimer:
    Yes, it can be done, however it should not EVER be done by careless/clumsy people.
    I didn't tell you to do this. I wouldn't recommend it either. I absolutely love my remote start system.

  30. Aftermarket accessories like an alarm/remote starts are like anything else. Buy a reputable brand and get a knowledgeable technician to install it. If they're installed correctly the only problems you'll have is having to replace the remote batteries. I will agree that I've had to fix some horrible wiring with remote starts installed by other installers. Bad technicians are like bad cops. They ruin it for everyone else

  31. Instead of remotely starting the engine it would be better to install a stationary heater. Added benefit: It also works with a manual transmission!

  32. i knew a person who had a remote starter system installed on her jeep, 2 days later she hits the remote starter, and boom, 2 hours later what was left of the car was a smoldering frame. It caused a fire in the dashboard and once that thing got going good, the fire department was called, and all they do is make sure the fire does not spread, they don't put out burning cars due to all the chemicals released by a car fire.

  33. I was planning to get one of these installed into my suv soon …but thanks to your video i think I'll pass on the idea. Thank you !

  34. I don’t understand why American cars don’t have the option of a Webasto style fuel ran heater that heats the coolant and the interior without the engine running.

  35. I'm convinced. I am buying aftermarket remote starters for all those lame relatives of mine that are a royal pain in the rear.

  36. he didn't have the car in park when he got out originally. The modification to the electrical system probably made a safety switch malfunction, and thus the car gottem. Those systems disable the brake start switch, which also bypasses the shift lever position switchs I would guess. Bad luck

  37. In 2008 Best Buy installed a viper alarm/remote start on my manual chevy colorado. They didn't install the neutral safety module. My truck will start in gear. Forwards and reverse gears. It still works. Starts the truck in gear and all.

  38. It did take hours but I put one in for my wife, works great. You need the direct wire instructions for your car. It’s good to write it all out first and solder the connections so they last. Always connect door triggers to the switch side and not the motor side so your using the car computer to control the door motors. Don’t skip the idle wire. I was able to get to every wire under the dash board.

  39. I won’t get an aftermarket stereo for the same issues Scotty mentioned. Even if the vehicle isn’t affected in the short term, eventually those spliced connections are going to fail and give me problems. I’ll just make sure the vehicle comes with a premium sound system to begin with.

  40. Factory remote car starters are made BY aftermarket companies. I installed remote car starters in cars for 10 years. Dealers go to those shops to have them installed. I have to say you're totally wrong on this one Scotty.

  41. I had a car stereo shop install an aftermarket remote starter and it was fine. Although it was on a '94 Caravan so I'm sure it was easier than a newer vehicle today.

  42. Just need to bring your vehicle to an experienced MECP certified installer. I install hundreds of these a year and provide warranty for as long as you own the vehicle. My truck has had a remote start/ security system in it for over 10 years. Scotty knows a lot of stuff, but when it comes to electrical workmanship and creativity for wiring I will gladly challenge this video on all the topics mentioned.

  43. Wish I’d seen this video before I learned the hard way on 07 Cadillac DTS,I installed a remote starter key fob from an 06,it remote started and ran great for one week before service theft deterrent system appeared and several mechanics later and a small fortune of my hard earned money,no start since,many attempted to fix but no bueno 😡😞

  44. Got a remote start "professionally" installed by a local audio shop in October. It took 4 additional visits for them to finally get it to work right. That was last week…

  45. So true.. my FJ has a remote start system added by the previous owner… It kills my battery, so now I'm tracing down the wires and modules and trying to remove it completely from my vehicle… what a pain…

  46. So, it sounds like either the Lexus was a manual transmission (which I doubt) or it had some problem other than the remote starter that allowed it to slip in to gear and move. That doesn't sound like it had anything to do with the remote starter other than the guy wasn't in the car to see that it was in gear.

  47. a night heater or auxilary coolant heater is better 🙂

    especially if you get a professionally installed espacher or webasto kit fitted

  48. depends on the system… they make some SPECIFIC for toyotas since toyotas starter systems are generally the same and are simple to install

  49. I'm an engineer. I've installed one of those kits years ago. got zero problems. none whatsoever. works flawless. you just need to know what you are doing. just because you are an ameritard old man that doesn't understand electronics it doesn't mean it doesn't work.

  50. I removed a paper bag of wiring from a costems truck he bought, I got so frustrated with it I took all the wiring out and put in a new harness 100% agree with you, !

  51. Had a friend install a remote starter in his Ford Contour. It was a manual transmission and he bypassed the clutch safety switch so it would work. He would just leave it in neutral with the parking brake on. Well one cold day he left it in 1st gear. The remote starter was designed to attempt 3 starts if the vehicle doesn't start when activated, so what happened is the car didn't start but the starter pulled the car forward, through a brick retaining wall at the end of his mother's driveway.

  52. You just tie them 2 wires together on my old truck and coast it own a short hill and that baby fires right up every time. My old hound dog sleeps in the bed (my version of a trunk monkey) and if someone wakes him up, he'll rip them to shreds and drag them into the truck so I can dump the body in the woods. He doesn't even use batteries.

  53. A friend wanted to install a radio in his car. I told him to connect the power wire to the acc on the fuse box. He tapped into some wire and his lights would blink while driving at night.
    This is one time he did not listen to me.

  54. Weird I bought an alarm with remote start on my RSX. It worked fine 5 years sold it. I might be one of the lucky few so I dunno.

  55. Scotty just cited every reason why I will not put an aftermarket remote starter on my car. I heard a couple of people complain about my car in temperature extremes but I tell them to dress appropriately and the car will warm up or cool down shortly. Buck up, buttercup.

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