We go riding with George Hotz and his $1,000 autonomous car | Comma.ai

We go riding with George Hotz and his $1,000 autonomous car | Comma.ai

Hi My name is George hotz I play a character named Geo hot on the internet [I] used to hack cell phones and now I build self-driving cars You may have seen me in Bloomberg last December. I had a self-driving car. [I] still do but now I have a company as well, and now we have a self-driving car, and we have an incredible self-driving car and by the end of the year For under [$1000] you [two] will be able to have an incredible self-driving car And this isn’t like you got to bring it to some guy and he’s going to do it We want to put it on Amazon prime We want to make it go to Amazon [prime] search “self-driving car”, add to cart It’ll be here in two days and then this is easy to set up as a piece of ikea furniture if you think that’s easy and Then you have a self-driving car, and that’s our dream We’re Comma ai Look good? Three two one we were so proud okay max speed set 65 My hands are off the wheel Now you know solid steel solid green ones there the core knows what it’s doing So I will have to make some lane changes up ahead Notice how we did a merge right there? Whoa that guy hit the brakes hard. Yes? He did yeah, we hit the brakes hard, [too]. Now. You’ve programmed it for Two car lanes three car lengths all we programmed it for 1.7 seconds But we drive very conservatively um because [I] need time to intervene right if the car messes up, so this is all the car Right now we don’t want to get off this exit. So I’m just gonna nudge it over a little bit here without disengaging autonomy Okay, so just a tiny little alright little nudge right and now I can just let it go and [it’ll] recover and pull us right back into the lane Okay, now we’re coming up to a turn on the road here coming up your turn on the road here, okay, Well, it likes to drive. Oh, we’ve set it for 65 This is a little aggressive. It is kind of a lot honestly it’s a little surprising that it is quite. This aggressive aggressive tonight Do you find that it has a little bit of a personality? I thought you’d like a little more aggressive No, you say when it’s being aggressive tonight Do you find that it does a little bit of personality yeah, but yeah This is a pretty and it is accelerating into this turn. Whoa take your job Yeah, whoo take you around that turn and it’s it’s up to 65 now I mean we can do let’s see if we can stop behind this stationary car, so this is something. That’s fairly tricky You know um it would did see it now. It sees it, but it’s a little bit late on that So what are you gonna? Do to make sure that’s that that’s a bug. That’s that’s a bug Yeah But stopping behind a a stopped car should be like the first thing it should do by the way It would have stopped you would not have [enjoyed] it, okay Um it did see the car it just saw it late, okay? Right so like I said everything this car does should be conservative if its aggressive. [I] take back go back, okay? I’m like right now. It’s gonna solid fix on where we’re now here again right coming up on a stationary vehicle It’s probably gonna late break If it breaks at all so don’t say that to me dude five four three Oh, no, there goes. I was that’s now that was all car os still good still gone. Oh boy I wouldn’t do it until we got to want it saw him at plenty of room that [was] those a smooth breaking that was that was pretty smooth that right. Three is about when I start to hit the brakes Ya know that was you would hear that ding if I had stepped in right right like I swear to God that’s true right There’s no trickery. No, no, that’s true. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, did you feel unsafe at any time? I mean a little But did the car do anything sketchy is what I’m saying, no No, it was more aggressive than I thought that it was going to system is [reengage], [okay]? It was aggressive, but it wasn’t tailgating no no. No it wasn’t tailgating It sped up because I had the thing set at 65 right some [people] like to go fast So here these little these green lines are what it thinks are the lanes But my lanes are obviously not all wiggy woggy like that. They’re straight. Oh, no No, that’s just because we moved a little bit in the lanes [oh] wow okay, so that’s actually our this here is our car And that’s our position in the lanes, so a little bit to the right now But now we’re centering out again, okay? Yeah So I’m gonna let this guy pass us and [then] [I’m] going to resume manual control in three two one, let go. I feel so much safer. [hahaha]. Do you. yeah? He’s having this 26 year Old kid driving around driving me around trust me. I don’t know yet alright I don’t know. I mean. I think this kind of stuff is people are gonna have to Get used to it in stages right? Yeah, you know and that’s the thing right You saw how easy it was to disengage the system, right? put this system in your car and then You know grow with it, right? Trust it for a second, trust it for two, trust it for 10, get in the back seat have sex Is this even legal? without a doubt so What we’re building? Is a lot more following the precedence of driver assistance systems. I’ll have a little bit about this in the presentation, but because We the user is still you know liable and in control of the vehicle at all times? It’s a lot more like cruise control But it helps you out a whole lot more than cruise control does so even though We did get a cease and desist from the California DMV They don’t understand what their own laws say under their own laws. We’ve consulted with many legal experts This is absolutely legal. Do what do their laws say? Their laws Prohibit an autonomous vehicle where an autonomous vehicle is defined as a vehicle without vehicle driven without human monitoring. If you’re in the driver’s seat, [you’re] watching It’s technically not an autonomous vehicle And then the law goes on to specifically exempt lane keeping assist systems and adaptive cruise control systems Which is you know largely what our system is we keep you in the lane We make sure you don’t hit anything in front of you. That’s highway driving That’s traffic driving, and that’s even quite a bit of city driving. So how is it any different from for example what’s already in a lot of volvo cars where you’ve got adaptive cruise control or having keeping assist yes, yep, and you have lane keeping assist and you turn it on and It’ll start taking the wheel and they’ll be like. Oh, I don’t wanna cross that lane line. Oh, I don’t across that lane line [oh] I don’t across that and literally it bounces back and forth you’ll get pulled over for driving drunk um What we are a lot more like is tesla autopilot Which is actually a system that feels I see the future of self-driving cars Not this hyper conservative automaker if we make it too good they might use it can’t have them using it right as literally It’s literally like In every shipping car today except for the tesla these systems are just atrocious. The fact that we’ve built what we built so quickly Compared to you know these manufactured they’ve been working on it for years, and they don’t even have what we have right. Even tesla It’s not if they didn’t build that [now] they license [mobileye] right we’ve built an in-house solution That works in some cases better than tesla in like nine months the reason we were able to do this so quickly huge Advances in Machine learning huge Advances in with machine learning, okay Um we do not code in the rules of the driving problem we learn from hours and hours and hours of data So when you see you learn about hours of it you go out you drive the car and then you take that data that happens Put it into your [computer] and then [the] computer learns that way yep, okay, so that means that the car we’re going to drive today Will have essentially be you driving Jake’s tons of driving Ricardo’s done some driving, mostly the three of us, but we have a product announcement today and We’re hoping to get a whole lot more drivers. I’m listening How do we succeed? Big Data, how do we get big data from the world Let’s have the world teach us to drive so announcing the first product of Common AI. It’s dropcam plus fitbit for your car and You can earn incredible comma points By just driving Mount our app our app is called chauffeur well, we were gonna call it chauffeur, but we realized that nobody knows how to spell chauffeur, so we Got rid of some of the letters only it’s a tiny chauffeur. It’s not a big shelf. It’s tiny It’s just a little Chffr first product of comma.ai Well, you said app It is a phone. I did say. I’m not supposed to say app um But yeah, so that Chffr right there go ahead and [open] it up Yeah, we want you to mount that on The windshield of your car and point that out and point that out in such a way that you would feel comfortable driving from the feet Okay Um so you mount that up on your windshield? It automatically starts logging. It’s also a dropcam plus fitbit it records all that data. It’s a dashcam Incredibly useful if you get into an accident or someone does something sketchy you [have] that logged in the cloud It’s also fitbit you can see all of your routes You can see where you drive you can see how long your commutes taken every day for people who are really into that stuff So is this app? I will be free. [oh]. Yeah, definitely yeah Yeah, we’re honestly our thousand dollar price point does not reflect a huge profit for us either um We just want to get these things in [it] many cars as possible [we] want to get this thing into users hands to me that that’s worth so much more than Nickel and Diming. Why? Why? I think it’s cool I mean part of it, too is like I’m really interested in artificial intelligence right and building huge [datasets] that can Teach an AI about the world so Kids do nothing for like the first two years they kind of just sit there you have to feed them and they’re looking around Right they’re learning about the world when you look at the data rate going into that baby’s brain. It’s insanely high there’s so much data bigger than any Probably bigger than any at least human annotated data set that’s out there not bigger than like the amount of Youtube videos that’s larger but um We need datasets of that magnitude if we want to train human level AIs so that’s I Care a lot [more] about that than I do about you know making a profit of users There’s so many other monetization routes here Um you know and eventually eventually well we’re not gonna lose money on the hardware right we don’t [wanna] sell these [things] in a loss But you know it’s not like we’re building these things for 50 bucks and selling [5000] if we can build them for 50 bucks We’ll sell them for 60 so yeah, I’m an idiot um I come to Las Vegas, right? And I thought it’d be cool professor that in Vegas sure thanks is awesome. [uh] But have you have actually looked at a road in Las Vegas? Yeah, I thought yeah, so this is [a] road, right They don’t just suck They don’t have lane markings Well, I’m gonna do they’re just not painted [their] [bots] dots. So mobile eye had to spend engineering time to write a special detector for Botts dots And it doesn’t work very well [um] you can read the tesla user [forums] about people trying to use it around the Vegas area um and You know you don’t want to have two detectors because then you have an if statement to switch between them So we have a saying at comma AI, “if statements kill people”, um our car has literally never seen bott dots like that before so two nights before and [crashed] my friend’s place in La looking on [street] [view] Like they’re everywhere. You can’t get away from them. We get here, [and] it doesn’t work. It doesn’t work at all But then we looked at what time of day it was, it’s dusk Our car has dynamic range issues [at] dusk As soon as the sun fell it started working on [Botts] [dots] Woke up this morning worked Flawlessly despite never having seen them before Mobile eye spends engineering time and can’t build something that works Our system is so robust and reliable that it drives on something that’s never seen before because a human would obviously think [they’re] lanes Right and there’s a lot of other Intuition in that in that highway image that I’m showing you look look at [where] like the tire tracks are right You can look at all of that and understand. This is how I should drive, and that’s what makes us So different from every other approach out there because that’s what it is The hard part of this is not building the thing with the motor that can turn the steering wheel on the gas and the brakes It’s writing the software that can take sensors figure out what to do and [actual] do it Well, we didn’t get to spend too much time with George Hotz and his self-driving Acura, but he’s based in San Francisco We’re based in San Francisco Maybe we can meet up again soon. We don’t know yet If this product’s going to be successful, but I for one can’t wait till the end of the year to find out

About the Author: Michael Flood


  1. As I sour on Elon Musk and his true colors starting to come out, GeoHot is peaking at the right time for a new inspiration. He does and has always shown himself to be ahead of the tech curve if not the money curve.

  2. Edison….Tesla….. Gates……jobs…. Zuckerberg….they where called idiots but, there where Genius..
    So, let's stick around and wait for the final product…I want to have it!!!!

  3. thats what dedication, hard work and almost zero sleep for a dream worth having looks like. he's a man possessed.

  4. i would put money on him before Nicolas tesla wannabeees. So basically this system learns as you drive and gets better as you correct its mistakes. I like it

  5. Trust it for 1, Trust it for 2, Trust it for 10, Get in the backseat, Have sex.

    Jesus george, slow down with the hints pal.

  6. Jesus. Someone gift this guy a class in “shit you should and should not say when representing your company and products on the internet”. Coulda would maybe should. Perhaps not the best words to be describing the life and death nature of automobiles. But what does a troll like me know. Haha. Hey, you crushed it when you’re not driving. Haha. For real. Keep kicking ass on the couch and give the quiet guy the keys. ~ out

  7. He’s not trying to say it’s perfect, cause it’s not. Tesla’s CEO would have went insane if the interviewer judged their software, this guy says “yeah that’s a bug” Elon musk would say something a lot different I can imagine!

  8. George is a genius, I wish he worked on his personality and keeping his mouth shut (he talks too much from a strategic business view). He is too smart to talk to dumb people honestly thats why he comes off like that.

  9. is this even legal? without a doubt…..lol. Not sure having a computer and display on the dash is legal unless its stock. but im only saying that because a cop pulled over a tesla driver and said the same thinglol.

  10. It's a single front facing sensor using your phone.
    I'm not sure how this will be
    "Better" than anything else other companies are making. Cheaper yes but one of his interviews he just outright claims to be able to do better than anyone else making self driving cars that have multiple sensors around the car and multiple types of sensors.

  11. He's like the new Zuckerberg – the one who doesn't think of using and dumping everyone afterwards. That's a type of genius we need!

  12. I watch a lot of George's live coding sessions and he's without doubt a brilliant mind, but he's got to be careful with the ego and exaggerated claims if he wants to be taken seriously.

  13. Have you guys seriously never heard about adaptive cc or lane assist?

    3:50 He steers himself.

    Come on people, are you really that dumb?

  14. 2:11 I thought you'd like it a little aggressive. I'm telling you know this guy is a piece of s*** don't care if hes Smart he is generally a piece of s*** one of those people you just want to punch.

  15. It seems like the lady came into the car closed mined. No wonder she was a nervous wreck the entire time. Let him do his thing. He's not a dummy

  16. "Hotz" is the romanian word for"thiev",and hacking is a type of thievery.Clever hotz,wish he'd collaborate with well funded and good intended companies,not declare war against them like some kind of evil genius;)

  17. "I though you'd like it a little more aggressive?"…lol. I have a friend that is a computer genius and he is socially awkward.

  18. This guy is exhausting to listen to I can't imaging having to work with him (not because I don't get it just because his ego radiates at such intensity).

  19. For him it's a game… he still want to hack things but this is not just about hacking, this is peoples safety!!! Of course it's cool but it's not about feeling cool! Tesla and others are doing it step by step because they don't want people to get killed with this technology… why? cause they will loose their name/customers. What would George do if something happened??? Trust me he will not take responsibility for his product. I love ML and Ai too and I'm looking forward to see more usage of it in my life…

  20. i think that this guy is a moron – i dont know why
    could it be that this is running by a living breathing human at the end of the line? like the calls google make? smells like fake

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